If anyone has an Antique Apparatus CD-Rowe bubbler model, could you check the wiring at the 15 pin plug to the front door? I need to know what color wires are on pins 13, 14, and 15 on each end of the plug. Two or three wires appear switched, the colors (Yellow, and Yellow with black strip, and yellow with a brown stripe and two of them don't match up with the other end of the plug. The customer swears that the tubes used to bubble and the little #73 lights worked at one time. All I can get to work is the bubbles 24 vac but no 12 vac to the lights. I don't think they ever made a manual that would cover the wiring. None that I can find anyway.
Another problem is that it is missing the one color cylinder. The customer evidently replaced a broken bubble tube but not the stained plastics. He moved twice since then most likely loosing the color cylinder in one of the moves. I think I can make one but it would be nice to buy one! As for the plastics, Victory Glass is out of what I need, does anyone else carry front plastics?
A little update. Antique Apparatus made a really nice box but they sure went cheap on the power supply for the #73 lights. They used 28vac with a resistor inline. The resistor and the terminal strip it was on was fried and the terminal all rusty. Any markings that may have been on it are gone, so I'm guessing it took about 15 ohms. The original was 5 watts and in my testing a 10 watt gets hot enough to burn your fingers, a 5 watt is hot enough in a few minutes to boil a drop of water. What a setup, every time a bulb burns out, the voltage for the rest goes up. They seemed to try and hide the resistor down on the back wall between the amp and the speaker box/baffle which also has a perforated cage over half of the amp over to the speaker box which really makes it hard to find without tracing the wires. I didn't investigate any further, but the 28 volts is coming from the main power relay that turns the machine on and off with a remote.
On 2/1/2025 7:09 AM, Tony Miklos wrote:
If anyone has an Antique Apparatus CD-Rowe bubbler model, could you check the wiring at the 15 pin plug to the front door? I need to know what color wires are on pins 13, 14, and 15 on each end of the plug. Two or three wires appear switched, the colors (Yellow, and Yellow with black strip, and yellow with a brown stripe and two of them don't match up with the other end of the plug. The customer swears that the tubes used to bubble and the little #73 lights worked at one time. All I can get to work is the bubbles 24 vac but no 12 vac to the lights. I don't think they ever made a manual that would cover the wiring. None that I can find anyway.
Another problem is that it is missing the one color cylinder. The customer evidently replaced a broken bubble tube but not the stained plastics. He moved twice since then most likely loosing the color cylinder in one of the moves. I think I can make one but it would be nice to buy one! As for the plastics, Victory Glass is out of what I need, does anyone else carry front plastics?
Tony, I have an AA bubbler but it’s a 45rpm version. I checked the wiring harness and there is no plug for the front door, in fact the whole juke is hardwired! One would have to take everything apart to get the front door off. Not the best design. Sorry I couldn’t help, Mauro
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On Feb 2, 2025, at 11:52 AM, Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
A little update. Antique Apparatus made a really nice box but they sure went cheap on the power supply for the #73 lights. They used 28vac with a resistor inline. The resistor and the terminal strip it was on was fried and the terminal all rusty. Any markings that may have been on it are gone, so I'm guessing it took about 15 ohms. The original was 5 watts and in my testing a 10 watt gets hot enough to burn your fingers, a 5 watt is hot enough in a few minutes to boil a drop of water. What a setup, every time a bulb burns out, the voltage for the rest goes up. They seemed to try and hide the resistor down on the back wall between the amp and the speaker box/baffle which also has a perforated cage over half of the amp over to the speaker box which really makes it hard to find without tracing the wires. I didn't investigate any further, but the 28 volts is coming from the main power relay that turns the machine on and off with a remote.
On 2/1/2025 7:09 AM, Tony Miklos wrote: If anyone has an Antique Apparatus CD-Rowe bubbler model, could you check the wiring at the 15 pin plug to the front door? I need to know what color wires are on pins 13, 14, and 15 on each end of the plug. Two or three wires appear switched, the colors (Yellow, and Yellow with black strip, and yellow with a brown stripe and two of them don't match up with the other end of the plug. The customer swears that the tubes used to bubble and the little #73 lights worked at one time. All I can get to work is the bubbles 24 vac but no 12 vac to the lights. I don't think they ever made a manual that would cover the wiring. None that I can find anyway. Another problem is that it is missing the one color cylinder. The customer evidently replaced a broken bubble tube but not the stained plastics. He moved twice since then most likely loosing the color cylinder in one of the moves. I think I can make one but it would be nice to buy one! As for the plastics, Victory Glass is out of what I need, does anyone else carry front plastics?
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Thanks anyway! This machine is a strange one. I finally realized that the H on the end of CD-RNH stands for "Home". I don't know why they went to the expense of making different boards for a dedicated "home" model, but here it is in my shop.
It has a different power supply which contains a board with "Home unit power supply" printed on it. The only On/Off switch is a normally open push button on the rear. It doesn't have a volume control or any signs of it ever having one. Luckily the owner showed me how to adjust the volume by holding "reset" then pressing "1" will raise the volume and to go down you use "reset" and "6".
There are a bunch of other things that make this box different from any other Rowe CD box I have seen. It works now so it is just getting some new plastics and I'll be done with it.
Tony
On 2/2/2025 1:55 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list wrote:
Tony, I have an AA bubbler but it’s a 45rpm version. I checked the wiring harness and there is no plug for the front door, in fact the whole juke is hardwired! One would have to take everything apart to get the front door off. Not the best design. Sorry I couldn’t help, Mauro
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On Feb 2, 2025, at 11:52 AM, Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
A little update. Antique Apparatus made a really nice box but they sure went cheap on the power supply for the #73 lights. They used 28vac with a resistor inline. The resistor and the terminal strip it was on was fried and the terminal all rusty. Any markings that may have been on it are gone, so I'm guessing it took about 15 ohms. The original was 5 watts and in my testing a 10 watt gets hot enough to burn your fingers, a 5 watt is hot enough in a few minutes to boil a drop of water. What a setup, every time a bulb burns out, the voltage for the rest goes up. They seemed to try and hide the resistor down on the back wall between the amp and the speaker box/baffle which also has a perforated cage over half of the amp over to the speaker box which really makes it hard to find without tracing the wires. I didn't investigate any further, but the 28 volts is coming from the main power relay that turns the machine on and off with a remote.
On 2/1/2025 7:09 AM, Tony Miklos wrote: If anyone has an Antique Apparatus CD-Rowe bubbler model, could you check the wiring at the 15 pin plug to the front door? I need to know what color wires are on pins 13, 14, and 15 on each end of the plug. Two or three wires appear switched, the colors (Yellow, and Yellow with black strip, and yellow with a brown stripe and two of them don't match up with the other end of the plug. The customer swears that the tubes used to bubble and the little #73 lights worked at one time. All I can get to work is the bubbles 24 vac but no 12 vac to the lights. I don't think they ever made a manual that would cover the wiring. None that I can find anyway. Another problem is that it is missing the one color cylinder. The customer evidently replaced a broken bubble tube but not the stained plastics. He moved twice since then most likely loosing the color cylinder in one of the moves. I think I can make one but it would be nice to buy one! As for the plastics, Victory Glass is out of what I need, does anyone else carry front plastics?
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