Hi, All:
Praise the good Lord, I might have found it.
Since most folks agreed that the problem had to be that #2 micro switch, and given that I have replaced it twice, I pulled out the wiring diagram and my erasable color pencils and went to work, starting at the common of that #2 switch. Wowsers. The blue-red wire from the common of that switch goes ALL OVER the set, through, I think, SEVEN plugs and 6 cables. I got a little 6v 150 ma test light, hooked it on that common pin and chased it one plug at a time. I believe, when the dust all settles, that it was the white, 6 pin cable going from the control box to the write-in assy that was the culprit. The male side to the write-in chassis where the blue-red wire connects was a little cock-eyed in the plug. That said, I went over every plug that thing passes through, cleaned and sprung the male contacts, and put them back together. I also put some more effort into cleaning the contacts on all the relays in the control box, got my leaf tools and made sure they all had good travel and wiping action.
It has been playing for about 3 hours now. I think I've run about 60 selections.
Got a little reminder lesson from a thing my grandfather used to say about not fooling with things unnecessarily. I decided to clean all the plugs. Apparently when I plugged that green plug together on the cable that goes from the selector to the A/B snap switches that I jimmied one of those pins, as the selector started intermittently not seeing selected levers. Or maybe it was just oxidized. Anyhow, I believe I have that fixed satisfactorily also.
Appreciate the help from you guys. Pretty sure it is the worst jukebox problem I've ever encountered. I think it's been 3 years, 3 service calls and 2 trips to my shop, but hopefully it's finally over!!
Best
Mike
Brilliant Mike, glad you got there on the end. I have had 'odd' issues over the years on my 470 with the plugs and sockets into the mech control box. I think some 'crappy' contacts work just fine until you disconnect and reconnect them. Great news, I bet you are pleased you can put that one to bed,
Nigel
On 23 Sept 2025 at 18:31, mboessen--- via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
Hi, All:
Praise the good Lord, I might have found it.
Since most folks agreed that the problem had to be that #2 micro switch, and given that I have replaced it twice, I pulled out the wiring diagram and my erasable color pencils and went to work, starting at the common of that #2 switch. Wowsers. The blue-red wire from the common of that switch goes ALL OVER the set, through, I think, SEVEN plugs and 6 cables. I got a little 6v 150 ma test light, hooked it on that common pin and chased it one plug at a time. I believe, when the dust all settles, that it was the white, 6 pin cable going from the control box to the write-in assy that was the culprit. The male side to the write-in chassis where the blue-red wire connects was a little cock-eyed in the plug. That said, I went over every plug that thing passes through, cleaned and sprung the male contacts, and put them back together. I also put some more effort into cleaning the contacts on all the relays in the control box, got my leaf tools and made sure they all had good travel and wiping action.
It has been playing for about 3 hours now. I think I've run about 60 selections.
Got a little reminder lesson from a thing my grandfather used to say about not fooling with things unnecessarily. I decided to clean all the plugs. Apparently when I plugged that green plug together on the cable that goes from the selector to the A/B snap switches that I jimmied one of those pins, as the selector started intermittently not seeing selected levers. Or maybe it was just oxidized. Anyhow, I believe I have that fixed satisfactorily also.
Appreciate the help from you guys. Pretty sure it is the worst jukebox problem I've ever encountered. I think it's been 3 years, 3 service calls and 2 trips to my shop, but hopefully it's finally over!!
Best
Mike
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