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Jukebox tech needed
by Paul Humel 07 Jul '23

07 Jul '23

Someone I know is looking for a jukebox tech near the Mississippi Gulf Coast for their Seeburg 100G in the event they need one. Bill Jones is no longer available to do this. Does anyone on this mailing list know of a tech in this area? Thanks, Paul Humel

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Rock-ola’s stupid email
by Bradley Grant 06 Jul '23

06 Jul '23

Good to know the whys of the Rowe tonearm. Thanks for posting that.Brad Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

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Re: Rock-Ola’s stupid email
by Bradley Grant 04 Jul '23

04 Jul '23

A lot packed into that reply! I have not serviced any of these newer boxes, just a hobbyist here, and never noticed the backwards cartridge. The tone arm on the “wrong” side always totally confused me as to “why” but never thought about how the cartridge would have to be turned around. So, yesterday I went over to my buddy’s house that has a Rowe Bubbler, and sure enough, backwards! Funny story you shared with turning the cart the “right” way! So now I really don’t understand why they would think of putting the tone arm over there for yet another reason! The first is “it looks wrong” and after all, they were building something that most people obviously watch… the unconcealed mech… it’s a part of the whole experience to watch the jukebox play… and oh, let’s put the tone arm on the wrong side, people won’t be bothered or notice much. Really? Anyway, thanks for getting me to notice the cartridge! As far as wiring on the cartridge, that reminded me of the screwey wiring on the Cont 2 cartridge, probably the same deal. Brad Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

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W1100 Selection Reset arm gets Stuck on Pin
by M De Simone 03 Jul '23

03 Jul '23

I’ve been working on a friends Wurlitzer model 1100 and got most of the issues sorted out but sometimes the little arm that searches for the raised pin gets caught up and can’t move or reset the pin. This causes the turntable to stay in the raised position and spin. I have been through the manual a few times and it doesn’t really address this well, I know it’s a pretty common issue for those that know these machines well, so thought I’d just ask instead of fumbling around even more. Also the end of record trip switch doesn’t work but by looking at the schematic that might just be a fuse. I won’t be back at his place until Saturday so I have some time to figure it out. I hope all my US friends have a great 4th of July!! Cheers, Mauro (Canada) Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Rock-Ola's stupid email
by Bradley Grant 03 Jul '23

03 Jul '23

Thanks for clarification, Tony. It is odd that would use that background image since it has the tonearm on the opposite side and that always bothered me about those mechs. I still wonder why they did that, did they copy someone else's mech and then reverse that part to avoid a lawsuit?!? So odd ro look at, especially for someone who are up with record players for the first 25 years of life. I always loved the 950 and the 850 and they are so out of my price range so I thought I might be able to kill 2 birds with one stone and "kinda" own both! thanks again, Brad

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Re: Rock-Ola's stupid email
by Ed Inman 02 Jul '23

02 Jul '23

I've always thought it kind of funny that modern Rock-Olas are made to look like Wurlitzers and Crosley/Sound Leisure jukes are make to look like Rock-Olas. -----Original Message----- From: Jukebox mailing list <jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Jul 2, 2023 1:14 PM To: Bradley Grant via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> Cc: Tony Miklos <jukeboxandpinball(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: Rock-Ola's stupid email I am in no way saying that their new models are bad, because I have no idea. I just think that their marketing strategy makes them LOOK bad (it does to me anyway). Maybe others see it as a good thing, I don't know? And heck, maybe they are returning to the Rowe/AMI mech and that's why they put that picture in the background? (I highly doubt that but I've been wrong before) Tony On 7/2/2023 1:08 PM, Bradley Grant via Jukebox-list wrote: > Since I didn't get the email I can't comment, but, I was thinking of actually purchasing a new juke and wondered about this post since it sounded so negative. Are the new Rock-ola's bad? I have over 20 boxes I have collected over the years from (age wise) a Seeburg Selectophone to a Continental 2 and so I do know a little. I like the Peacock CD version - would certainly not want one if it were my only choice, but, like I said I have some of the "real" ones, this I'd like for a toy. Any comments about Rock-Ola's new ones, please let me know what you think and if anyone happens to have one for sale in CA, please let me know.thanks, Brad, Vacaville, CA > _______________________________________________ > Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com > To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave(a)lists.netlojix.com > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave(a)lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/

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Re: Rock-Ola's stupid email
by Bradley Grant 02 Jul '23

02 Jul '23

Since I didn't get the email I can't comment, but, I was thinking of actually purchasing a new juke and wondered about this post since it sounded so negative. Are the new Rock-ola's bad? I have over 20 boxes I have collected over the years from (age wise) a Seeburg Selectophone to a Continental 2 and so I do know a little. I like the Peacock CD version - would certainly not want one if it were my only choice, but, like I said I have some of the "real" ones, this I'd like for a toy. Any comments about Rock-Ola's new ones, please let me know what you think and if anyone happens to have one for sale in CA, please let me know.thanks, Brad, Vacaville, CA

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Seeburg DS Selection Issue
by Jukebox Repairman 29 Jun '23

29 Jun '23

I’m troubleshooting a DS that scans twice no pickup after making a selection. One of the OA2’s does not light. I replaced with known good OA2 still no light. Am I looking at a transformer issue? Regards Rick

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Rock-Ola's stupid email
by Tony Miklos 27 Jun '23

27 Jun '23

I swear the Rock-Ola email makes it look like they are struggling to sell jukeboxes. Their latest goof is a big one. On the parts link they have a background picture of an Antique Apparatus juke with the Rowe-AMI mech! Good one! I don't know how long it's been like that, just noticed it today.

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Did list migration work?
by David Breneman 26 Jun '23

26 Jun '23

I just realized that I haven't seen any traffic here since the list migration a few months ago. And I don't receive a confirmation email if I try to subscribe. Are we still in business? -- David Breneman dbreneman(a)t-online.de

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Test of server migration #2.
by Jay Hennigan 25 Jun '23

25 Jun '23

Testing, please ignore. -- Jay Hennigan - jay(a)west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV

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Continental 2 12" speaker
by Tim ODay 24 Jun '23

24 Jun '23

What is the ohms of the 12" Jensen speaker located in the AMI Continental 2. Thank

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Rockola CD Fireball Model E
by ron jukebox 24 Jun '23

24 Jun '23

Hello all. I have a Fireball CD Rockola jukebox. It has an unusual VERTICAL CD pro player. A short while ago, I started to have trouble playing CDs. I had never had an issue before but I got the usual signs of a bad CD Player, spinning backwards, sometimes spinning really fast, but most times not playing at all. The Fireball has an unusual sled that the player rests in. Anyway, after lens cleaning, examining the CDs etc, I concluded that the player was bad. A seller on ebay had one from a Fireball (VAU1254/11), so I ordered it. He claimed it had a new laser installed. But, I am getting the same results. Every once in a while it WILL play a song or two (usually only form the same disc) but mostly will not play. I even went to Walmart and bought a brand new Steve Miller Band Greatest Hits. I get the same result from the new CD. The CD's that will not play on the Fireball, WILL play on my CD8 Rockola Bubbler. Is it likely that I bought a player that has a bad laser AND that my old player had the same; OR is there possibly some other reason? Thanks,Ron

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Re: Did list migration work?
by NotarySojac 21 Jun '23

21 Jun '23

The list chatter has been sparse of late. I subscribed to the FB groups like "Trashcan", "Seeburg", "Rock-Ola" etc. Lots more activity on those, I dare say. Bob - Georgetown Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list" <jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> To: "Thomas Teeter via Jukebox-list" <jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> Cc: "Thomas Teeter" <jukeboxrepairman(a)gmail.com>, "Nigel Pugh" <pughn(a)npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 12:17:12 AM Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: Did list migration work? About 2 weeks ago I posted up asking if the list was still running. I have been on this list since pretty much the start, but my friend who has been on less than a year had reported he no longer received postings. He did not receive my post or anyone else's post saying the list was still running. Is it possible that the migration lost some members details ? Possibly an old backup of members was taken prior to migration ? He has also tried unsuccessfully to re subscribe, Nigel uk

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Re: Wurlitzer OMT CD
by Helen Clarke 19 Jun '23

19 Jun '23

Hi Everyone on this jukebox forum Hopefully someone out there will know of a decent jukebox person Who could give my jukebox a service and show me how to bolt it down for transportation as I am possibly moving in the near future I have had the jukebox for years but sadly the gentleman who I got it from died a few years ago I am in the uk and the Essex area Thank you all in advance Helen Sent from my iPad > On 17 Jun 2023, at 03:06, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> wrote: > > Thank you sir. I will after the weekend > >> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:45 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < >> jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> wrote: >>> On 2023/06/16 11:22 a.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote: >>> This question is probably directed to John. >>> I want to know if there is a way to convert to a full size CD PRO player >> in >>> this customer machine I’m looking at? The bracket that holds the original >>> had a flat washer spacer that was glued to the bracket. Not sure why >> unless >>> a spacer or mounting tab was missing??? >>> Regards >>> Rick >>> ______ >> Hi Rick, >> Email me directly - jrr(a)flippers.com - and I'll try to help you sort >> this out when I have time... >> Or consult with Rod Stebelton of Wurlitzer Ohio...(tell him I said "Hi!") >> John :-#)# >> -- >> John's Jukes Ltd. >> 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 >> Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) >> flippers.com >> "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" >> _______________________________________________ >> Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave(a)lists.netlojix.com >> %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s >> Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com > To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave(a)lists.netlojix.com > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/

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Re: Seeburg R load and unload issue
by Kent Z 19 Jun '23

19 Jun '23

Thanks guys. So easiest way to work on clutch would be park mechanism far right side, Then remove mech from cabinet to work on it? Any tricks to be aware of removing clutch and reinstall? Thx, Kent Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

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Seeburg R record load and unload issue
by Kent Z 18 Jun '23

18 Jun '23

When the mechanism attempts to load or unload record, the cam turns about halfway and sits and the mech chatters. Its stuck until I help it by pulling back on the clamp arm assembly, then it completes the unload cycle. Loading record is the same issue. I have oiled the cam and clamp arm area that I can reach from the front. Any ideas? Kent Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

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Wurlitzer OMT CD
by Jukebox Repairman 17 Jun '23

17 Jun '23

This question is probably directed to John. I want to know if there is a way to convert to a full size CD PRO player in this customer machine I’m looking at? The bracket that holds the original had a flat washer spacer that was glued to the bracket. Not sure why unless a spacer or mounting tab was missing??? Regards Rick

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NSM ES2 system
by Tony Miklos 16 Jun '23

16 Jun '23

Let me start with the fact that I know next to nothing about NSM's, but I've managed to fix all <20 I've worked on. I have a Prestige II with an ES2 system that acts odd. Lets say to make a selection 123. Press 1 - OK, press 2 - OK, press 3 and the 3 goes into the 2nd digit place so it's reading 13. Additional pressed buttons will show up in the second digit place with 1 staying as the first digit. What makes it more odd is that yesterday something happened and it worked correctly until it was turned off and on again, then it went back to making the strange selections. I have another credit/selection computer and that one works correctly all the time. Tried powering it up with the cabinet switch open and closed with no difference. Tony

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Ballasts and fluorescent lamps
by Ed Inman 10 Jun '23

10 Jun '23

Have a customer whose fluorescent lamps went out. Jukebox takes rather rare F25T12/CW/33 lamps but I found a pair and replaced both FS-25 starters. One of the new lamps blinked for a second then went out. The other won't come on at all. Typical of failed ballasts? I noticed the ballasts are also connected to "noise suppression capacitors." Is this typical? Maybe bad capacitors? Are they really necessary? Should I try bypassing the capacitors or try replacing the ballasts? Both? Seems odd that both would fail at the same time. I'm sure this isn't rocket science but I was expecting the new lamps to start right up so it was kind of disappointing & the customer is frustrated. Any suggestions appreciated. thanks, Ed

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Replacing the horn tweeter for a AMI Continental 1
by Doug Duncan 08 Jun '23

08 Jun '23

I recently replaced the capacitor and resistors in the crossover of my Continental and discovered that the next problem is that the horn tweeter is broken. So, what to replace it with? I read a lot of discussion in the archive and indeed here that says that piezo horns are unsatisfactory.but are cheap. I'm happy to pay for a compression type if I can find one. The problem seems to me to be one of finding a horn that will slot into the space. I could buy an off the shelf unit like a .Pyle-Pro PH391 but it is a lot bigger and would mean that I would have to cut out a slot in the cabinet to fit. I will carry on and see if I can find another of the existing size. Alternatively, there are separate horn drivers available without the horn. They all? have a 1 inch throat. I could make an adaptorthe existing horn by an adaptor to take one of those.which would be preferable to cutting the cab.. I could also try to find a circular tweeter to substitute and blank off the rest of the slot. It would have to be a high sensitivity type. Has anyone else tried to solve this problem? What, in detail, did you do? Any advice will be gratefully received. Doug

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No Emails / Can't login
by ksherwin＠wi.rr.com 02 Jun '23

02 Jun '23

Shame on me for not doing this sooner, but for several months I've not received any emails. I checked the archives (http://jukebox.markmail.org/) and saw there were recent postings so obviously the list is still alive. I've checked my email client to make sure the messages were not being rejected and that looks OK. Also, on the archive site I tried to log in and was rejected. Requesting a "forgot password" the site indicates my email is not recognized. I'm not sure I'll see this message come back via the forum, so if someone could let me know who to contact to resolve the user ID/Password issue I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Karl

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Rock-Ola Gripper roll pin size
by Tony Miklos 27 May '23

27 May '23

Does anyone know offhand what the size of the roll pin for the gripper assembly of a 60', 70's,80's .... model? Customer told me he lost his when he tried to fix it. (this should be fun when I go there)

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AMI E-80 Turntable Motor
by Jamie McElroy 26 May '23

26 May '23

Hello all, Just a quick question. Does anyone know or has anyone ever used a G-80 turntable motor on a E-80 mechanism. I have an E-80 and the belts just cause it to be a shade slower than 45 rpms records to play slow. I wondered if they would fit the same on the mechanism. I'm trying to get away from the belts and go with a direct motor. Just wanted to ask...any thoughts? If not, any thoughts on how to get the belts to not play a shade slower on the turntable motor. As always, thanks for your help. Jamie

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Help with CD mechanism - Rockola CD8 -
by ron jukebox 21 May '23

21 May '23

Hello, My CD mechanism is not acting right on my CD8 Rockola Nostalgia Bubbler Jukebox... First off, after viewing a few good Youtube videos of some 45 Rockola mechanisms and getting a good idea on how to take them apart, clean, and lubricate, I started to look at my mechanism on the CD8. They look similar but the very first thing I noticed ( and started to worry about ) is that thegears on the CD8 'appear' to be made of a plastic (black). I played with the mechanism a bit and can determine that mine is definitely a bit 'gummy'. If I play the juke for a while, and it gets warm in there, it seems to operate just fine. This Juke is set up to turn itself on after a power outage and the 'attract' mode is also set.After some storms here not long ago, we lost poser at the house, but I was not here when the power came back on. When I did get home and noticed the Juke was on, I looked and no CD was on the player. I opened the door and about 30-40 CDs fell out. The CD8 had apparently tried to play some random CD's, but when it tried to return them to the carousel, it could not hold on to them. When, as I said earlier, I was examining the mechanism in action, I saw where, when readyto replace the CD in the carousel, the front part of the 'bow' would just barely grab the CD andkind of cause it to flip almost. Sometimes, the CD would stay on the CDPRO player and othertimes it would flip the CD off the player but never return it. Now, all that sounds (to me) like the mechanism needs cleaned and lubricated for sure BUT, as I got down to the same level with myeye as the CD player, I notice the the CD player was no longer 'touching" the "L" brackets that hold the CD pro player down. The CD player was down about 3/8" (maybe 5-6mm) from the bracket. Then as I manually operated the CD lift mechanism, I could see that as the outer part of the bow tried to grab the edge of the CD, it was actually grabbing just at the bottom edge of the bow as the CD player was lower than it had been before. Has anyone ever seen this? I carefully took off the springs from the feet of the CD player and stretched them a bit, bringing the CDplayer back up to the normal position which just below and barely touching the "L" brackets that hold the player down at the two opposite corners. The mechanism, despite the fact that i still is a bit gummy and (IMHO) needs to be disassembled, cleanedand lubed, is now working fine. If picks up the CD from the player and places it back in the carousel. I guess I have rambled on too much about the springs collapsing, but on to some seasoned advice from allof you. I still plan on taking out the pin and cleaning and lubing the mechanism. I am seeking advice and warnings in doing so. Since the gears at the end are plastic, does this restrict the type of lubrication when re-assembling. It appears to me that the factory using a white grease instead of oil.I could be wrong on that but it looks like it white grease dried up to me. Does this mechanism follow the same disassemble and reassemble as the older ones for a 45 with all metal gears, albeit it a pot metal type of metallic gear? On a few videos I have seen, they suggest to place some oil and it penetrate the mechanism and that that processwill sometimes save the hassle of disassembly. I sure do not want to do that as I afraid what the oil may drip upon.Also, I like the visible mechanism on this juke and would not want to see it all oily. I apologize for the extra length, but want to give sufficient info for the helpers! I thank you all in advance,Ron Parker

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