Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and wall box to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection directly from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and nothing happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the group for consideration.
Regards, Rick
Rick, Are you in Canada? I just had the same issue come up and was asked about it. The problem is in the 3 pin Molex plug, there needs to be a power wire added. Apparently without the stepper this wire is left out. Wondering if it’s the same jukebox, Mauro
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On Mar 8, 2025, at 7:23 PM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and wall box to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection directly from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and nothing happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the group for consideration.
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On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and wall box to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection directly from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and nothing happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the group for consideration.
Regards, Rick
Hi Rick,
This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper has finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat.
I believe that the Star Switch is the first suspect. Followed by the Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look closed but are not making an electrical connection so the keyboard Write-In can occur.
John :-#)#
How about the contact closing at the home position on the stepper wheels?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:08 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and wall
box
to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection directly from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and
nothing
happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched
down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the group for consideration.
Regards, Rick
Hi Rick,
This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper has finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat.
I believe that the Star Switch is the first suspect. Followed by the Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look closed but are not making an electrical connection so the keyboard Write-In can occur.
John :-#)#
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Paul, if that were the case would the stepper still function allowing the wall box to make selections?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:28 PM Paul Howlett via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
How about the contact closing at the home position on the stepper wheels?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:08 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and wall
box
to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection directly from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and
nothing
happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched
down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the
group
for consideration.
Regards, Rick
Hi Rick,
This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper has finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat.
I believe that the Star Switch is the first suspect. Followed by the Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look closed but are not making an electrical connection so the keyboard Write-In can occur.
John :-#)#
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I think so, it's been a lot of years.
On Sun, Mar 9, 2025, 9:25 AM Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Paul, if that were the case would the stepper still function allowing the wall box to make selections?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:28 PM Paul Howlett via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
How about the contact closing at the home position on the stepper wheels?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:08 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and
wall
box
to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection
directly
from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and
nothing
happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched
down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the
group
for consideration.
Regards, Rick
Hi Rick,
This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper
has
finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat.
I believe that the Star Switch is the first suspect. Followed by the Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look closed but are not making an electrical conn
https://www.google.com/maps/search/closed+but+are+not+making+an+electrical+conn?entry=gmail&source=gection so the keyboard
Write-In can occur.
John :-#)#
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On 2025-03-09 6:25 a.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Paul, if that were the case would the stepper still function allowing the wall box to make selections?
The Start Switch disables the jukebox selection until the stepper is finished, so - yes - the wallboxes can continue running even if the jukebox keyboard selection system is disabled because of dirty contacts.
John :-#)#
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:28 PM Paul Howlett via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
How about the contact closing at the home position on the stepper wheels?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:08 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and wall
box
to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection directly from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and
nothing
happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched
down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the
group
for consideration.
Regards, Rick
Hi Rick,
This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper has finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat.
I believe that the Star Switch is the first suspect. Followed by the Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look closed but are not making an electrical connection so the keyboard Write-In can occur.
John :-#)#
-- Paul Howlett Pinball Paul's
703-361-0420
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On Mar 9, 2025, at 4:45 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
On 2025-03-09 6:25 a.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Paul, if that were the case would the stepper still function allowing the wall box to make selections?
The Start Switch disables the jukebox selection until the stepper is finished, so - yes - the wallboxes can continue running even if the jukebox keyboard selection system is disabled because of dirty contacts.
John :-#)#
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:28 PM Paul Howlett via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
How about the contact closing at the home position on the stepper wheels?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:08 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and wall
box
to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection directly from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and
nothing
happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched
down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the
group
for consideration.
Regards, Rick
Hi Rick,
This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper has finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat.
I believe that the Star Switch is the first suspect. Followed by the Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look closed but are not making an electrical connection so the keyboard Write-In can occur.
John :-#)#
-- Paul Howlett Pinball Paul's
703-361-0420
-- John's Jukes Ltd. 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
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Robert, no message attached??
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 8:15 AM Robert Fuelling via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
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On Mar 9, 2025, at 4:45 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list <
jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-09 6:25 a.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Paul, if that were the case would the stepper still function allowing
the
wall box to make selections?
The Start Switch disables the jukebox selection until the stepper is
finished, so - yes - the wallboxes can continue running even if the jukebox keyboard selection system is disabled because of dirty contacts.
John :-#)#
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:28 PM Paul Howlett via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
How about the contact closing at the home position on the stepper
wheels?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:08 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and
wall
box
to his DS160.
The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection
directly
from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and
nothing
happens.
He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched
down.
I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the
group
for consideration.
Regards, Rick
Hi Rick,
This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper
has
finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat.
I believe that the Star Switch is the first suspect. Followed by the Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look closed but are not making an electrical connection so the keyboard Write-In can occur.
John :-#)#
-- Paul Howlett Pinball Paul's
703-361-0420
-- John's Jukes Ltd. 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
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Say, I’m curious, did this stepper issue ever get resolved? I’d be interested to know the outcome.
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On Mar 10, 2025, at 9:13 AM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
Robert, no message attached??
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 8:15 AM Robert Fuelling via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 9, 2025, at 4:45 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list <
jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-09 6:25 a.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Paul, if that were the case would the stepper still function allowing
the
wall box to make selections?
The Start Switch disables the jukebox selection until the stepper is
finished, so - yes - the wallboxes can continue running even if the jukebox keyboard selection system is disabled because of dirty contacts.
John :-#)#
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:28 PM Paul Howlett via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
How about the contact closing at the home position on the stepper
wheels?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:08 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote: > Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and
wall
box > to his DS160. > > The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection
directly
> from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and nothing > happens. > > He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay latched down. > I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the
group
> for consideration. > > Regards, > Rick Hi Rick,
This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper
has
finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat.
I believe that the Star Switch is the first suspect. Followed by the Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look closed but are not making an electrical connection so the keyboard Write-In can occur.
John :-#)#
-- Paul Howlett Pinball Paul's
703-361-0420
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Mike, I never heard back from the gentleman having the issue. Let me try and connect with him tomorrow.
Regards Rick On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 4:16 PM M De Simone via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Say, I’m curious, did this stepper issue ever get resolved? I’d be interested to know the outcome.
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On Mar 10, 2025, at 9:13 AM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list <
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Robert, no message attached??
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 8:15 AM Robert Fuelling via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 9, 2025, at 4:45 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list <
jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-09 6:25 a.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Paul, if that were the case would the stepper still function allowing
the
wall box to make selections?
The Start Switch disables the jukebox selection until the stepper is
finished, so - yes - the wallboxes can continue running even if the
jukebox
keyboard selection system is disabled because of dirty contacts.
John :-#)#
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:28 PM Paul Howlett via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
How about the contact closing at the home position on the stepper
wheels?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 9:08 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
> On 2025-03-08 4:22 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote: >> Had a call today from a gentleman who said he added a stepper and
wall
> box >> to his DS160. >> >> The wall box selects perfectly but now when making a selection
directly
>> from the juke both alpha and numeric buttons stay latched down and > nothing >> happens. >> >> He disconnected the wall box but the juke buttons still stay
latched
> down. >> I have to say this is a new one on me so I’m throwing it out to the group >> for consideration. >> >> Regards, >> Rick > Hi Rick, > > This is a Stepper relay or Start Switch issue. When the stepper is > active it shuts down the jukebox selection ability until the stepper
has
> finished dealing with the reception and transcription to the tormat. > > I believe that the Star Switch is the
https://www.google.com/maps/search/%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+I+believe+that+the+Star+Switch+is+the?entry=gmail&source=g first suspect. Followed by the
> Timing Relay contacts. One of these has a set of contacts that look > closed but are not making an electrical connection so the keyboard > Write-In can occur. > > John :-#)# > > > -- > Paul Howlett > Pinball Paul's > > 703-361-0420
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