I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
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On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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Thank you John! That’s what I thought as well but I did remember seeing some conversations in the past. It has just a bit of oil on it now, hopefully that won’t cause ant issues. Mauro
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Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
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On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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Fibre gear may absorb oil or grease, and this would tend to weaken them. They are like plastic gears and self-lubricating as I recall.
I could be wrong of course! Won’t be the first time…
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On Jun 28, 2024, at 7:33 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
Thank you John! That’s what I thought as well but I did remember seeing some conversations in the past. It has just a bit of oil on it now, hopefully that won’t cause ant issues. Mauro
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On Jun 28, 2024, at 9:57 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
John :-#)# John’s Jukes Ltd. www.flippers.com
On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't oiled or greased. Although the oil on them may have gotten there inadvertently.
Tony
On 6/28/2024 9:56 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
John :-#)# John’s Jukes Ltd. www.flippers.com
On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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I stand (I'm sitting actually) corrected! I really should have read the manual again...
From the 1015 manual Section IV, Maintenance, pg 36:
*LUBRICATION *
*CHASSIS*
*Oil the main cam shaft front and rear bearings, the main drive bearings, the motor oil cups, the brake and the turntable and bearing assembly with SAE No. 10 acid free and wax free oil. (See Figures 51, 52, 53 and 54.) Use SAE No. 40 oil to lubricate the clutch and the /_main drive gears_/. *
Elsewhere the main drive gear is shown as the fibre gear and shaft...
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On 2024/06/29 9:24 a.m., Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't oiled or greased. Although the oil on them may have gotten there inadvertently.
Tony
On 6/28/2024 9:56 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
John :-#)# John’s Jukes Ltd. www.flippers.com
On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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That makes me feel better.
On 6/29/2024 1:06 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
I stand (I'm sitting actually) corrected! I really should have read the manual again...
From the 1015 manual Section IV, Maintenance, pg 36:
*LUBRICATION
*CHASSIS*
*Oil the main cam shaft front and rear bearings, the main drive bearings, the motor oil cups, the brake and the turntable and bearing assembly with SAE No. 10 acid free and wax free oil. (See Figures 51, 52, 53 and 54.) Use SAE No. 40 oil to lubricate the clutch and the /_main drive gears_/. *
Elsewhere the main drive gear is shown as the fibre gear and shaft...
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On 2024/06/29 9:24 a.m., Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't oiled or greased. Although the oil on them may have gotten there inadvertently.
Tony
On 6/28/2024 9:56 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
John :-#)# John’s Jukes Ltd. www.flippers.com
On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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I have to watch out for assumptions! Nylon gears must not be lubricated and I extrapolated that - when I should have just RTFM!
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On 2024/06/29 11:29 a.m., Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list wrote:
That makes me feel better.
On 6/29/2024 1:06 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
I stand (I'm sitting actually) corrected! I really should have read the manual again...
From the 1015 manual Section IV, Maintenance, pg 36:
*LUBRICATION
*CHASSIS*
*Oil the main cam shaft front and rear bearings, the main drive bearings, the motor oil cups, the brake and the turntable and bearing assembly with SAE No. 10 acid free and wax free oil. (See Figures 51, 52, 53 and 54.) Use SAE No. 40 oil to lubricate the clutch and the /_main drive gears_/. *
Elsewhere the main drive gear is shown as the fibre gear and shaft...
John :-#)#
On 2024/06/29 9:24 a.m., Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't oiled or greased. Although the oil on them may have gotten there inadvertently.
Tony
On 6/28/2024 9:56 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
John :-#)# John’s Jukes Ltd. www.flippers.com
On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
Thanks all for the information and clarification. Much appreciated, Mauro
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On Jun 29, 2024, at 3:40 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I have to watch out for assumptions! Nylon gears must not be lubricated and I extrapolated that - when I should have just RTFM!
John ;-#)#
On 2024/06/29 11:29 a.m., Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list wrote: That makes me feel better.
On 6/29/2024 1:06 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote: I stand (I'm sitting actually) corrected! I really should have read the manual again...
From the 1015 manual Section IV, Maintenance, pg 36:
*LUBRICATION
*CHASSIS*
*Oil the main cam shaft front and rear bearings, the main drive bearings, the motor oil cups, the brake and the turntable and bearing assembly with SAE No. 10 acid free and wax free oil. (See Figures 51, 52, 53 and 54.) Use SAE No. 40 oil to lubricate the clutch and the /_main drive gears_/. *
Elsewhere the main drive gear is shown as the fibre gear and shaft...
John :-#)#
On 2024/06/29 9:24 a.m., Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't oiled or greased. Although the oil on them may have gotten there inadvertently.
Tony
On 6/28/2024 9:56 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
John :-#)# John’s Jukes Ltd. www.flippers.com
On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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Believe it or not, nylon absorbs water! It is hygroscopic. I don't know if it's that and/or grease that makes it expand. I think it is an old United (before Williams), or maybe a Chicago Coin brand shuffle alley that these two certain nylon "butterfly" gears would swell and bind. A lot of them had grease on them, but some were clean(ish) and dry and they too swelled. I don't know if the ones that were greased, if that was an attempt to make them work after they had already swelled, or if the grease made them swell? Sort of the chicken and the egg.
Tony
On 6/29/2024 3:40 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
I have to watch out for assumptions! Nylon gears must not be lubricated and I extrapolated that - when I should have just RTFM!
John ;-#)#
On 2024/06/29 11:29 a.m., Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list wrote:
That makes me feel better.
On 6/29/2024 1:06 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
I stand (I'm sitting actually) corrected! I really should have read the manual again...
From the 1015 manual Section IV, Maintenance, pg 36:
*LUBRICATION
*CHASSIS*
*Oil the main cam shaft front and rear bearings, the main drive bearings, the motor oil cups, the brake and the turntable and bearing assembly with SAE No. 10 acid free and wax free oil. (See Figures 51, 52, 53 and 54.) Use SAE No. 40 oil to lubricate the clutch and the /_main drive gears_/. *
Elsewhere the main drive gear is shown as the fibre gear and shaft...
John :-#)#
On 2024/06/29 9:24 a.m., Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't oiled or greased. Although the oil on them may have gotten there inadvertently.
Tony
On 6/28/2024 9:56 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
Not oiled! Nor greased.
Runs dry.
John :-#)# John’s Jukes Ltd. www.flippers.com
On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:48 PM, M De Simone via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I just put a new main fiber gear in my W1015 and was wondering if it required any lubrication? I put a few drops of oil on the worm gear but I’ve heard different opinions over the years so now that it was my turn to do this I thought I’d ask the option of the group. Thanks, Mauro
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