Three days ago, Microsoft randomly started rejecting mail from this list, apparently as well as several others, as some sort of anti-spam measure. This caused a lot of bounces and messages about members getting unsubscribed.
It affected hotmail.com, outlook.com, live.com and perhaps a few other recipient domains.
I've proactively resubscribed everyone that seems to have been affected.
If you find list mail being routed to your junk folder, please follow the link to choose "Trust this sender" which may help this kind of thing from happening again. I have no clue what caused it, and apparently neither does Microsoft.
Thanks Jay. Thought it might have been me. Test post.
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-----Original Message----- From: Jay Hennigan via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 5:02 PM To: Jukebox mailing list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com Cc: Jay Hennigan jay@west.net Subject: [Jukebox-list] Administrivia: Microsoft mail bounce issue
Three days ago, Microsoft randomly started rejecting mail from this list, apparently as well as several others, as some sort of anti-spam measure. This caused a lot of bounces and messages about members getting unsubscribed.
It affected hotmail.com, outlook.com, live.com and perhaps a few other recipient domains.
I've proactively resubscribed everyone that seems to have been affected.
If you find list mail being routed to your junk folder, please follow the link to choose "Trust this sender" which may help this kind of thing from happening again. I have no clue what caused it, and apparently neither does Microsoft.
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Google, Microsoft, and others are strengthening the DMARC requirements for email. 3rd party emails are getting hit as are others.
Here is one article on what is happening.
DMARC
dmarcreport.com
Microsoft Announces New DMARC Policy Handling Defaults for Enhanced Email Security | DMARC Report <#>
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Google has similar announcements about email security tightening. Google is also shutting down googlegroups so if you are using that to access usenet you need to find a new host - like www.eternal-september.org
This is both good and bad - good because the tightening up of email requirements should knock out a lot of spam, and bad because an awful lot of people are going to be blown off of email and not have a clue how to recover...
John :-#(#
On 2024/01/11 3:01 p.m., Jay Hennigan via Jukebox-list wrote:
Three days ago, Microsoft randomly started rejecting mail from this list, apparently as well as several others, as some sort of anti-spam measure. This caused a lot of bounces and messages about members getting unsubscribed.
It affected hotmail.com, outlook.com, live.com and perhaps a few other recipient domains.
I've proactively resubscribed everyone that seems to have been affected.
If you find list mail being routed to your junk folder, please follow the link to choose "Trust this sender" which may help this kind of thing from happening again. I have no clue what caused it, and apparently neither does Microsoft.
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 07:59:46 AM PST, John Robertson via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
...Google is also shutting down googlegroups so if you are using that to access usenet you need to find a new host - like http://www.eternal-september.org
That's an ironic name, as September used to be the bane of Usenet users.
On 1/12/24 09:51, David Breneman via Jukebox-list wrote:
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 07:59:46 AM PST, John Robertson via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:...Google is also shutting down googlegroups so if you are using that to access usenet you need to find a new host - like http://www.eternal-september.org
That's an ironic name, as September used to be the bane of Usenet users.
It's deliberate, precisely because of that phenomenon.
For those of you that are younger than a Seeburg SPS160, USENET is an old-school version of discussion forums, but decentralized and hierarchical. Also known as newsgroups. It still exists, but these days most usage is posting binary files. Back then, access to Usenet was bundled with regular Internet service and ISPs operated news servers in a peer-to-peer mesh.
In those early days, USENET was important. It was a means of distributing technical information, as well as being pretty much the only forum-like vehicle in existence.
Also, in those days the Internet was pretty much limited to science and research facilities and colleges and universities.
Every September, a new crop of freshmen would enter college and get their first exposure to the Internet and to USENET. They would post inappropriate things such as chain letters and generally annoy much of the community. In a month or two they would somewhat wise up and/or get disciplined for the abuse and things would go back to normal. Next September it happened all over again.
As far as the non-technical public, if they were online at all they were on private walled gardens like Prodigy, AOL, Compuserve, etc. AOL became the 800-pound Gorilla in the room. Remember all of those free disks by snail mail?
In late 1993, private Internet service providers offering direct access to the Internet started to gain popularity, and the noise that their customers brought to Usenet added to that of 1993 college freshmen. In March of 1994, AOL opened a gateway between their service and Usenet. It has never fully recovered.
Hence, September 1993 is known as The September That Never Ended, or Eternal September.
Please don't ask me about Archibald Andrews or Veronica Lodge. The last I heard they were hunting gophers.
Ahhh.... The good old days..... lol.... I ran a very popular local BBS back for several years way back then right up until around 1998, started it up with what was then the "fast" 2400 baud modem!!!! Don't laugh! That was state of the art way back when! And ran that dang thing on my 286 computer with FIVE megs of RAM and a 107 meg hard drive!!!! Later upgraded that hard drive to a 400 megger one at a cost of nearly a dollar a meg!!!! Just think, my 6 year old laptop with a 1TB hard drive and 6GB of memory only cost a fraction of the cost of that other computer. Memo to self: Time for a new computer....
Thomas
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 10:36 PM Jay Hennigan via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 1/12/24 09:51, David Breneman via Jukebox-list wrote:
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 07:59:46 AM PST, John Robertson viaJukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
...Google is also shutting down googlegroups so if you are using that to access usenet you need to find a new host - like
http://www.eternal-september.org
That's an ironic name, as September used to be the bane of Usenet users.
It's deliberate, precisely because of that phenomenon.
For those of you that are younger than a Seeburg SPS160, USENET is an old-school version of discussion forums, but decentralized and hierarchical. Also known as newsgroups. It still exists, but these days most usage is posting binary files. Back then, access to Usenet was bundled with regular Internet service and ISPs operated news servers in a peer-to-peer mesh.
In those early days, USENET was important. It was a means of distributing technical information, as well as being pretty much the only forum-like vehicle in existence.
Also, in those days the Internet was pretty much limited to science and research facilities and colleges and universities.
Every September, a new crop of freshmen would enter college and get their first exposure to the Internet and to USENET. They would post inappropriate things such as chain letters and generally annoy much of the community. In a month or two they would somewhat wise up and/or get disciplined for the abuse and things would go back to normal. Next September it happened all over again.
As far as the non-technical public, if they were online at all they were on private walled gardens like Prodigy, AOL, Compuserve, etc. AOL became the 800-pound Gorilla in the room. Remember all of those free disks by snail mail?
In late 1993, private Internet service providers offering direct access to the Internet started to gain popularity, and the noise that their customers brought to Usenet added to that of 1993 college freshmen. In March of 1994, AOL opened a gateway between their service and Usenet. It has never fully recovered.
Hence, September 1993 is known as The September That Never Ended, or Eternal September.
Please don't ask me about Archibald Andrews or Veronica Lodge. The last I heard they were hunting gophers.
-- Jay Hennigan - jay@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
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