It’s not a physical mounting difference – the motor cases are identical. It’s 110 vs 24.
Wired Wallbox motors get their power directly over a 3 wire cable that connects to the 26 volt T2 transformer located in the Master Selection Receiver. Hence, the need for a 25 volt motor.
Wireless Wallboxes have no direct connection to the Master Selection Receiver, so their motors have to run off of their own 110 house AC power.
Today’s Trivia: The Wireless Wallboxes communicate with the Trashcan’s Master Selection Receiver by sending 250 KHz pulses to the MSR on top of the house’s 110 volt AC power. The MSR receives the 250 KHz pulses (I just realized that’s why it’s called a Master Selection Receiver!) and filters them out of the 110 volt AC power to pulse the 2050 tube in the Trashcan.
-----Original Message----- From: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list [mailto:jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com] Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 8:49 AM To: 'Jukebox mailing list'; Paul Humel Cc: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: Trashcan Wallbox motor repair
I didn't realize that motor was unique to that model. Any idea why? Is it a physical mounting difference or is it 110 vs 24 vac? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 04:22:35 PM EST, Paul Humel humel@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion.
I'll keep an eye out for a complete wallbox at a "reasonable" price. The problem is that I have a W1-L56 Wireless Wallbox, and it's the only model that uses this motor. So there's not much of a selection.
I would try to rewind the stator myself (what do I have to lose?), but I have no clue as to what gauge wire to use. The wire looks about the diameter of the hair on my head (what's left of it...).
-----Original Message----- From: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list [mailto:jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com] Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 9:29 AM To: jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com Cc: Paul Humel; JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: Trashcan Wallbox motor repair
Those are cheap and plentiful wallboxes. Most likely it would be cheaper to buy a complete wallbox for parts than having your motor rebuilt, even if you find someone to do it. There's one on eBay for $45 right now. On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 09:58:26 AM EST, Paul Humel via Jukebox-list jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com wrote:
I have a Trashcan Wireless Wallbox with a burned out motor. It looks like the motor is pretty much unobtainium, so I want to get it repaired.
Does anyone in this group know of someone who could repair it?
Thanks,
Paul Humel
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