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Reproduction Manual Binding
by Tony Miklos 20 Oct '24

20 Oct '24

Is it just me or do others hate the darned plastic binders they use for copied manuals? Picky Tony

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Rock-ola CD8B error codes
by Paul Howlett 19 Oct '24

19 Oct '24

I have a customer with a CD8B that has two error codes mech error 04 and 05. what are these? The diagnostic button does nothing and the rotate button also does nothing. -- Paul Howlett Pinball Paul's 703-361-0420

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Re: Rock-ola CD8B error codes
by Rob Blakeslee 19 Oct '24

19 Oct '24

Paul, Error code 4 - communication - unable to establish communication with CD player Error 5 - cd response - unable to obtain the correct response from the cd player. If needed, I can send all the errors codes. Good luck, Rob —————————————————————————————— I have a customer with a CD8B that has two error codes mech error 04 and 05. what are these? The diagnostic button does nothing and the rotate button also does nothing. -- Paul Howlett Pinball Paul's 703-361-0420

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Seeburg 100C Price?
by Tony Miklos 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

I have this in my living room and I'm wanting a change, so I'm doing some work on an R to replace it. I would rate it as an 8 out of 10. (a 9 if you stand back further. Ha Ha ;) What's the going rate on stuff like this? If you don't want to post, please feel free to email me directly. Oh, of course the amp is rebuilt and it sounds great. It would come with a 90 day FULL Warranty PARTS AND LABOR! and one year for parts. Thanks, Tony

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R89 Strange Behavior
by Jukebox Repairman 10 Oct '24

10 Oct '24

so it appears i am not getting any power to the detent coil but im certain my mech control card is functional. I do not have a manual for this model but can someone shed some light on that circuit and point me in the right direction? This thing is driving me crazy. Regards, Rick

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R89 Strange Behavior
by Jukebox Repairman 09 Oct '24

09 Oct '24

I'm still working on this R89 that supposedly took a lightning hit. I believe i'm almost there but now when a selection is made you hear a click from the sprag assembly but the sprag solenoid is not activating. If i reach down and manually operate the sprag lever the mag motor starts right up as soon as i let off it stops. Also the nag motor LED on the mech controller is lit but the detent is not? I have never seen this condition before so I'm looking for answers. Regards, Rick

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HF100R Mech Issue
by Jukebox Repairman 07 Oct '24

07 Oct '24

I Have a customer with a 100R that keeps getting stuck on K9 playing over and over again. I was there yesterday for the second time and made a very slight adjustment on the contact block to insure the cancel coil was resetting the pin. Then I selected A1 to observe the pin cancel (which it did) then K9 again and the pin was cancelled. I repeated this test process 3 times and each time the mech functioned accordingly. I left thinking all good. This morning a text from him again saying mech stuck on K9. Thankfully he is only 30 minutes away but it's getting old. Any thoughts on what to do or what else to check? I think I had a similar issue years ago but I don't remember what the resolution was. Regards, Rick

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Wurlitzer 2410S
by Terry Teschner 30 Sep '24

30 Sep '24

Good Evening, I have the opportunity to purchase a Wurlitzer 2410S. Can anyone tell me about this model? Reliable? Easy to Work on? Avoid at all costs? Value? Thanks in advance, Terry

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Service bulletins NSM and AMI/Rowe
by John Robertson 29 Sep '24

29 Sep '24

I've updated two of my web pages and added my service bulletins to them: flippers.com NSM jukebox technical tips <#> 🔗 https://flippers.com/NSM.html <https://flippers.com/NSM.html> flippers.com AMI/Rowe jukebox technical tips <#> 🔗 https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html <https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html> Hope this helps! Of course I have my large Wurlitzer (USA and German) bulletin libraries up too... If you have any I am missing please email me and I'll add them to the pile! John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

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R89 strange behavior
by Jukebox Repairman 29 Sep '24

29 Sep '24

After further troubleshooting I have narrowed the issue to the CCC. Does anyone have a known working that they would care to sell? I really need to get this machine out of my shop. Customer is getting anxious Regards Rick

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Re: Jukebox-list Digest, Vol 428, Issue 1
by Bill Ische 29 Sep '24

29 Sep '24

Hi Terry, I rebuilt a 2304 that had rats living in it. The deck and some wheel parts had rusted. But after a thorough cleaning, replacing side laminate, rebuilding amplifier and replacing cartridge it has been very reliable for the past 10 years. I'm not very good at the sound aspect so sometimes it gets louder and quieter, but that is probably the way the needle is riding or I have an amplifier issue. Regardless, it always works when I entertain. Mine also has a broken hinge on the left side of the main glass, but I have been able to live with that. Good luck! On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 2:00 AM <jukebox-list-request(a)lists.netlojix.com> wrote: > Send Jukebox-list mailing list submissions to > jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > jukebox-list-request(a)lists.netlojix.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > jukebox-list-owner(a)lists.netlojix.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Jukebox-list digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Wurlitzer 2410S (Terry Teschner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 17:36:21 -0500 > From: Terry Teschner <teschner(a)umn.edu> > Subject: [Jukebox-list] Wurlitzer 2410S > To: jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com > Message-ID: > < > CAK0MR7CA9ZDaJJdsdCx5BWOs2whDVGP3cLZabYNaEeGK7GbScw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Good Evening, > I have the opportunity to purchase a Wurlitzer 2410S. Can anyone tell me > about this model? Reliable? Easy to Work on? Avoid at all costs? Value? > > Thanks in advance, > Terry > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com > To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave(a)lists.netlojix.com > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > Searchable archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Jukebox-list Digest, Vol 428, Issue 1 > ******************************************** >

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Look out
by Dean Carriveau 25 Sep '24

25 Sep '24

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Rowe R89 Strange Behavior
by Jukebox Repairman 18 Sep '24

18 Sep '24

Following up on my Findings. I got it to select and play by replacing mech controller board but the Central Computer also has issues. The amp is in constant mute mode and the mute function is controlled by the CCC But finally making progress Rick

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Rock-Ola bubbler chrome
by Tony Miklos 18 Sep '24

18 Sep '24

I have an early Rock-Ola bubbler in the shop and the three pilaster castings, only on the left side, the chrome is peeling off. The metal underneath, I'm guessing it's the nickel, is in as perfect condition as can be. I've never had anything chrome plated before. Anyone have any ideas what it would cost for all three? It is really odd that this happened on only the left side. Has anyone had these parts with the chrome peeling? Does anyone still make these in metal? I don't even see all three offered for sale anywhere, metal or plastic. Thanks, Tony

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Access issues
by Peter Johnson 18 Sep '24

18 Sep '24

I can't access the jukebox-list site, also can't open the searchable archive. Any ideas please?? Peter Johnson. Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Chrome Plating
by Tony Miklos 17 Sep '24

17 Sep '24

I have an early Rock-Ola bubbler in the shop and the three pilaster castings, only on the left side, the chrome is peeling off. The metal underneath, I'm guessing it's the nickel, is in as perfect condition as can be. I've never had anything chrome plated before. Anyone have any ideas what it would cost for all three? It is really odd that this happened on only the left side. Has anyone had these parts with the chrome peeling? Does anyone still make these in metal? I don't even see all three offered for sale anywhere, metal or plastic.

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Seeburg HSC1 and Wurli 1050
by Julie Mitchell 16 Sep '24

16 Sep '24

Hi all, I am moving from East TN back to Madison WI with one or possibly two jukeboxes. The person who serviced mine for many years when I lived there previously is winding down his business, and I probably need to look for a new person longer-term. Any leads? An upcoming project I have is that I've located a Seeburg HSC1 that I'd like to buy. I do not know how well it's working. Is there anyone interested in getting it restored for me? They aren't worth much, and I can probably have someone else refinish the wood, but I would like someone to go through the mechanism and amplifier. Also, and I hope it's ok to mention this (if not, I apologize) but I have a very well-maintained Wurlitzer 1050 for sale. I had it on eBay, but there just wasn't enough traffic, so I ended the listing. There is a link below with information, and you can reach out to me at this email if you want to make me an offer. The machine is located in Knoxville TN, but it would cost me about $500-600 to move it with me to Madison WI if that's a better location for you to pick it up. https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ad5owbtrbg7xu4/Wurli1050.pdf Thanks, Julie

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Two questions
by Julie Mitchell 15 Sep '24

15 Sep '24

Hi Jukebox friends, Long time follower, very infrequent poster. 1. I want to buy a Seeburg HSC1 from Wayne Ericksmoen in La Cross WI. I don’t think he has time/energy to restore, but I am assuming it will need some TLC. Is anyone interested to work on it and bring it to Madison WI? Timeline flexible. 2. I have a Wurlitzer 1050 for sale. It’s immaculate with notable service records, but no eBay bids. Am I being unreasonable with a $6k starting bid? Happy for any feedback to improve the listing or set a fair price. https://www.ebay.com/itm/305779031592 All the best, Julie

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Rowe R89 Strange Behavior
by Jukebox Repairman 12 Sep '24

12 Sep '24

This is going to be a bit lengthy so bear with me. I was called to a customer home for his juke not working after his home sustained a lightning hit. I was told that a TV, Pool pump, Dishwasher all damaged. His juke was not powered on during the strike but shortly after he noticed it would not accept a selection. In the display it would show first digit then when pushing 2nd digit button the display would go blank. In service mode mech magazine would not rotate but you could hear a click from the sprag solenoid. I replaced the mech controller board and no change. Next the Central computer still no change. I pulled his mech, Central computer, and power supply brought them back to my shop and tested each component one at a time in my shop machine and ALL his components work fine. He brought the complete machine to my shop for further troubleshooting. I reinstalled all his original components and now in idle state the magazine motor is constantly receiving power pulses. If I manually operate the sprag assembly the magazine starts to rotate in a slow jerky motion. I even replaced the service switch but I am now at a loss what is causing this issue. Again all his original components operate properly in my shop machine. I would welcome any input on what could be causing this. Regards, Rick

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Rowe MM6 Mech Motor Replacement
by Jukebox Repairman 06 Sep '24

06 Sep '24

A special thanks to Nigel Pugh for providing a diagram showing the orientation on the crank pins. Its all back together and working great again Rick

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Rowe MM6 Mech Motor Replacement
by Jukebox Repairman 05 Sep '24

05 Sep '24

I removed the motor to free up the linkage but now I'm having issues trying to line up the crank pin on the lift arm. Can someone explain the orientation of the long and short crank pins with the gripper arm at full rest position over the magazine? I must be overthinking it. I don't think it should be this hard. Is there a trick to it? Regards, Rick

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Seeburg SMC-1 help requested
by NotarySojac 02 Sep '24

02 Sep '24

SMC-1 saga: I'm trying to get a friend's Seeburg SMC-1 Disco working. She tells me it worked around seven years ago while she & hubby lived in Wisconsin. They bought it at one of the Chicago Coin-op Shows. Hubby was developing dementia shortly before moving to my neck of the woods in 2017. He apparently did NOT secure the mech for their 1000 mile move to Texas. When it arrived it would light up, displayed gobbldygook on the front panel but nothing more. Hubby passed away several years ago and the machine has sat silent ever since. When I first checked it out (after boning up reading the manual) I asked if they'd ever changed the batteries. "What batteries??" she replied. Oh my! I opened up the MCU box and a lot of "snow" drifted down! This thing was toast. I ordered an upgrade board from CDAdapter, installed it and then the fun began. Upon power up the display shnows "- - - - - - - -" and stops. Does not show Your Selection, Selection Playing or "FP" for free play. Just dashes. Mech was all the way over to the right side. Scan switch did nothing to move the mech in either Normal or Service modes. I could put it into Service Mode and operate all of the functions with the new keypad/board. At least the display was working. When I put it into Factory Test Mode the Selection Playing display always shows "00". The #7 function is supposed to spin the motor. Nothing. I tried to move the mech over to the left by hand-spinning the motor shaft. No movement. Then today a nice person on the Seeburg FB group tipped me off to the trip solenoid lever. It was in the down (play) position. I flipped it up (scan) position and was able to move it to the center. Powered up but still all dashes on the display. I switched to Service Mode and it picked up a record and played it.. but did not reject it after play. Powered the box down and manually got the record back into the rack. Still won't scan. Was able to get the motor to run using the #4 Factory Test function and #7 to turn it off. Next I swapped out the PCC board with one I got from Victory Glass.. I'm trying anything at this point. Not much different except Factory Test is acting like this: #1 Turns on motor #2 Turns on motor #4 Turns on motor @7 Turns on motor ..display consistently shows "00" in Selection Playing window. Also, when put back in Normal Mode the motor starts spinning... but not scanning. I can get the motor to stop by flipping the Reject Switch. Powered down and tried to move the mech manually by hand-turning the motor shaft. Nope! Won't move with trip solenoid lever up or down. So to recap: Both MCU and PCC boards replaced. Box does not complete power up showing correct info on display, just eight dashes. Cannot get mech to move left or right by hand-spinning the motor shaft. I've reached the edge of my expertice and could sure use some sage advice. Thanks for reading and perhaps offering ideas. Bob - Georgetown Tx.

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AMI R-145 amplifier volume control modification
by Dave 29 Aug '24

29 Aug '24

Joey, Mine are a C-40 and a D-80, so I have a slightly different modification, but Harold Hagen suggested the following for the G-J in one of his "Dr. Know It All" columns: "Take the positive lead loose from the volume control. Connect a 10K or 15K resistor from this lead to the wire that's still connected to the control. Now take a 22 MFD capacitor (25 volts) and connect the plus the wire you took loose, and the negative to the volume control terminal that previously had the wire. This isolates the volume control from the DC, and sometimes helps significantly." Hope this helps. - Dave Schwallie ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 21:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: joeymcd <joeymcd(a)mymts.net> Subject: [Jukebox-list] AMI R-145 amplifier volume control modification To: jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com Message-ID: <1371623906.4407910.1724722872955.JavaMail.zimbra(a)mymts.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Does anyone have the schematic modification for the scratchy volume control issue on a AMi R-145 amplifier? Specifically an AMi F and G model. I used to have a copy but can't find it. Thanks. Joey McDonald

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AMI R-145 amplifier volume control modification
by joeymcd 26 Aug '24

26 Aug '24

Does anyone have the schematic modification for the scratchy volume control issue on a AMi R-145 amplifier? Specifically an AMi F and G model. I used to have a copy but can't find it. Thanks. Joey McDonald

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Re: Seeburg R Mech Lighting
by Jukebox Repairman 26 Aug '24

26 Aug '24

Jukebox Repairman 3:22 PM (0 minutes ago) to jrr so i added a dab of solder to the bulb body, inserted into the socket and it lit right up. Thanks for all input everyone. im smiling again On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 2:46 PM John Robertson <jrr(a)flippers.com> wrote: > On 2024-08-26 10:50 a.m., Jukebox Repairman wrote: > > Thanks John, I probably should have mentioned using my tester i have 6v on > center pin of socket when grounding to the outside of the socket > > OK, now with the bulb in the socket, use alligator jumper wires to the pin > that sticks out the rear and the shell mount and your meter. If Zero, then > the socket is corroded and needs replacing. If 6V and the light is out, > look at the lamp pin contact surface - I imagine it is corroded. A pencil > eraser make help here, or replace the socket... > > John :-#)# > > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 1:41 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < > jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> wrote: > >> On 2024-08-26 10:09 a.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote: >> > I Have an R I'm working on and typical only one side of the 100 end >> > cap lighting works. >> > The strange thing is I have 6V at the center pin of the socket. I've >> tried >> > 3 different bulbs thinking maybe the bulb wasn't making good >> connectivity >> > but no go. >> > >> > It seems like every R that I have restored has had this issue. Any >> thoughts >> > on a fix? >> > >> > It's the only thing holding me up on completion of the job >> > >> > Regards, >> > Rick >> > _____ >> >> If you have 6V on the center terminal of the lamp socket, perhaps the >> lamp socket shell is too loose to make a ground connection. Check using >> the shell and the centre terminal, then if Zero V check the center >> terminal and the shell's mounting arm... >> >> John :-#)# >> >> >> -- >> John's Jukes Ltd. >> 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 >> Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) >> flippers.com >> "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list(a)lists.netlojix.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave(a)lists.netlojix.com >> %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s >> Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ >> > > -- > John's Jukes Ltd. > 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 > Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) > flippers.com > "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out" > >

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