On 6/18/20 11:40, Ken Alker wrote:
>> I have a
>> Peet Brothers weather station and it connects to a Raspberry Pi running
>> Weewx. This allows me to view it locally as well as upload to Weather
>> Underground (No, not THAT Weather Underground).
>
> You must clarify the parenthetical... I'm missing something (likely "Jay
> humor" which is often above my brain power).
The Weather Underground was a well-known (at the time) radical Vietnam
War protest group in the late 1960s and early 1970s responsible for
several bombings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground
>> Their website is kind of limited in technical details, but at first
>> glance it looks like the data you get from it is via some cloud based
>> service and an app. This wouldn't work for me but if the data can be
>> pulled locally without "phoning home" to some service over the web and
>> imported to Weewx via some form of API it would be sweet.
>
> I opened a ticket last week to find out how to pull data locally and
> they came back with multiple ways:
>
> "There are many ways to collect the raw weather data from your Tempest
> system. One of the easiest is via the IFTTT applet that automatically
> posts your station data to a Google spreadsheet. See more on using IFTTT
> with WeatherFlow devices here: https://ifttt.com/weatherflow. You can
> also leverage our API services to pull raw data from your
> station: https://weatherflow.github.io/SmartWeather/api/. Another way
> to download your data is to use our UDP Broadcast service which does not
> require an internet
> connection: https://weatherflow.github.io/SmartWeather/api/udp.html."
It sounds like the UDP broadcast or API could be used to talk to Weewx.
For remote applications this could be useful, for example Santa Cruz
Island. Is the 120V indoor device powered directly from the line or with
a wall-wart? If a wall-wart, what's its output?
Unfortunately there are a lot of personal weather stations around that
aren't particularly weatherproof. Anemometers fall apart, electronic
packages fill up with water, etc. The commercial stuff is like an order
of magnitude more expensive. It will be interesting to see how this unit
holds up in a few years. I think SBARC has gone through several and
wound up spending big bucks on the commercial stuff.
From what I've read on their website it gets rather confused by snow.
Its acoustic sensor doesn't detect snow well if at all and the snow
builds up on top of the device rendering the rain sensor useless until
it melts.
What would be cool would be for them to incorporate a weight sensor for
snow.
--
Jay Hennigan - jay(a)west.net
Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
--On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 12:48 PM -0700 Jay Hennigan via SBARC-list
<sbarc-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
> On 6/17/20 10:56, Ken Alker via SBARC-list wrote:
>> Since hams seem to be intrigued by weather (or, at least they seem to
>> talk about it a lot on the radio - perhaps due to nothing else to say,
>> or to kick start a conversation), I thought people might enjoy hearing
>> about this new device (UUQ especially maybe for Santa Cruz Island).
>> There are no moving parts. This station measures rainfall using the
>> sound of droplets hitting the top of the device (no tipping bucket).
>> This also measures wind direction and wind speed via sonar (no spinning
>> cups). It does mathematical compensation to arrive at the proper
>> temperature despite being in direct sunlight. It was purchased for me
>> as a gift via a KickStarter program. I think it was $280, or so.
>>
>> Here is a link: <https://weatherflow.com/tempest-weather-system/>
>
> Ken, at first glance it's cool. What's on the receiving end?
I run an application on my iPhone that shows me the data. There is a 120V
device that sits in the house the grabs data from the station wirelessly
(not sure of the protocol) and then pushes it either to their server or to
my iPhone (not sure exactly how it works; likely to THEIR server as I
believe I can get results via my iPhone application when remote, but
haven't tried this yet).
> I have a
> Peet Brothers weather station and it connects to a Raspberry Pi running
> Weewx. This allows me to view it locally as well as upload to Weather
> Underground (No, not THAT Weather Underground).
You must clarify the parenthetical... I'm missing something (likely "Jay
humor" which is often above my brain power).
> I also have Open Sprinkler that monitors rainfall, humidity, and
> temperature. This controls garden irrigation and adjusts water time based
> on recent and predicted weather.
>
> Their website is kind of limited in technical details, but at first
> glance it looks like the data you get from it is via some cloud based
> service and an app. This wouldn't work for me but if the data can be
> pulled locally without "phoning home" to some service over the web and
> imported to Weewx via some form of API it would be sweet.
I opened a ticket last week to find out how to pull data locally and they
came back with multiple ways:
"There are many ways to collect the raw weather data from your Tempest
system. One of the easiest is via the IFTTT applet that automatically posts
your station data to a Google spreadsheet. See more on using IFTTT with
WeatherFlow devices here: https://ifttt.com/weatherflow. You can also
leverage our API services to pull raw data from your
station: https://weatherflow.github.io/SmartWeather/api/. Another way to
download your data is to use our UDP Broadcast service which does not
require an internet
connection: https://weatherflow.github.io/SmartWeather/api/udp.html."
> Links:
>
> Weewx - http://www.weewx.com/
> Open Sprinkler - https://opensprinkler.com/
> Weather at my house - https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KORGATES8
How about: https://www.peetbros.com/
> Jay Hennigan - jay(a)west.net
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> 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
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Ken Alker
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KA6KEN
Here is a link I should have sent in my original post which shows the
output of my station: <https://tempestwx.com/station/20766/>
Click on the tempest ICON at the top right for a different view (I like it
better).
--On Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:03 AM -0700 Jay Hennigan via SBARC-list
<sbarc-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
> On 6/17/20 10:56, Ken Alker via SBARC-list wrote:
>> Since hams seem to be intrigued by weather (or, at least they seem to
>> talk about it a lot on the radio - perhaps due to nothing else to say,
>> or to kick start a conversation), I thought people might enjoy hearing
>> about this new device (UUQ especially maybe for Santa Cruz Island).
>> There are no moving parts. This station measures rainfall using the
>> sound of droplets hitting the top of the device (no tipping bucket).
>
> How does it deal with snow? Traditional tipping bucket rain sensors
> typically have a black funnel to aid in melting with optional heaters.
Dunno - but gud question. UL hv 2 ask them.
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Since hams seem to be intrigued by weather (or, at least they seem to talk
about it a lot on the radio - perhaps due to nothing else to say, or to
kick start a conversation), I thought people might enjoy hearing about this
new device (UUQ especially maybe for Santa Cruz Island). There are no
moving parts. This station measures rainfall using the sound of droplets
hitting the top of the device (no tipping bucket). This also measures wind
direction and wind speed via sonar (no spinning cups). It does
mathematical compensation to arrive at the proper temperature despite being
in direct sunlight. It was purchased for me as a gift via a KickStarter
program. I think it was $280, or so.
Here is a link: <https://weatherflow.com/tempest-weather-system/>