Daryl and members of the list-
Amateur radio plays a daily part in many different types of wireless communications. Many public safety communications officials (APCO) members are hams and got their start in two-way radio Many organizations such as the Radio Club of America are made up of 50% or more hams Many commercial (cellular) engineers and technicians are hams Many of those who develop next generation two-way radio products for Motorola, Harris, Icom, Kenwood and others are Hams
Ham radio serves as a gateway for many people and they go on to contribute to commercial and land mobile radio Over the years, technologies pioneered by hams have gone on to become important contributions to the land mobile radio industry
Hams NEED to stay abreast of what is happening in the commercial and land mobile radio worlds-if we bury our heads in the sand that we won't be prepared to defend our spectrum and/or continue to contribute to the profession
For my part- I started my career in commercial communications as a result of becoming a licensed ham radio operator in 1962 When I worked for RCA, GE, and Motorola communications companies as a sales engineer my being a ham opened many doors with communications directors in many cities and Counties and gave me a decided advantage of very competition Today I serve on several national committees-one for APCO, as vice-chair of the broadband committee, and one for the FCC as a part of the Public Safety Advisory Council for their ERIC (Emergency Interoperability center. Both of these committees have several ham radio operators on them and this gives us a common bond when working together.
If it were not for ham radio I would never have gotten to this point in my life-it changed my idea of what I wanted to become and do for a living, Ham radio is a daily part of my life and to ignore the aspects of radio communications which do not seem relevant to the hobby is not advisable.
For example, the speaker at the next Club meeting is, I am sure, going to discuss the threat to the 420-440 MHz hand band by a bill that is currently in Congress. But I doubt that he will address the following issues:
1) The current administration and FCC believe that narrowband communications is OLD technology and that only broadband is important going forward-never find the fact that no broadband technology supports ANY type of simplex communications, and most don't support one-to-many communications
2) In order to repurpose spectrum for broadband the FCC must FIND spectrum which is contagious. Most Land mobile radio systems are intermingled with each other-that is the police and fire channels co-exist with plumbers, trucking companies, taxi companies and others, so taking this spectrum back and converting it to broadband is not a very viable option. HOWEVER, HAMS do operate on contiguous spectrum in both the 144-148 and 420-450 bands. This makes it easy for the FCC to recommend that this spectrum be repurposed for commercial broadband systems. AND in the 420-450 bands hams are secondary to NTIA which controls the government spectrum and which has been ordered to work with the FCC to identify spectrum which can be repurposed for broadband use.
3) The section of this bill, HR607 that deals with the spectrum give back was crafted my ME-simply because the original bill wanted to take back 144-174 AND 450-512 MHz for broadband use. We have exactly 15 minutes to write this portion of the bill on the day it was introduced and so I came up with this compromise AND added some conditions which would insure this will never happen. The next two paragraphs of the bill deal with how and when the spectrum would be given back and it is virtually impossible for this to happen.
a. The REASON this was put into the bill is that the bills need to be "scored" in order for it to make to the floor of the House-the higher the score the more importance the will have-AND once the scoring is done there will be many amendments to the bill.
b. I have attached my slides which I will be presenting on Sat to a group in Ventura FYI.
In Closing let me say that Ham radio is the foundation for the land mobile and commercial cellular world-AND to focus just on ham radio and NOT be aware of what is happening in the rest of the world of wireless is, to me, short sighted and dangerous.
Andy W6AMS
Hello Andy,
Thank you for sending this out to the troops. I wish I had received it before what Bill, W1UUQ, had sent out. What Bill sent out makes much more sense after reading this from you. Anything I said to Bill about the article written by Glenn Bischoff shouldn't reflect on where you stand on Amateur Radio and its relationship within the RF community at large. I would say that, for the most part, we hams understand that we are blessed to have all the frequency bands that we do have and that we should never take that for granted. For as soon as we do that, we are bound to lose chunks of it. And then, when the public needs us the most to provide those emergency communications that we freely proivide, the !#$%^& will hit the fan. That would truly be a shame because lives and property could be lost. I know I am preaching to the choir. Thank goodness for the ARRL standing up for all the Amateur Radio operators, what we do and where we do it. We do it in the radio spectrum as granted to us by the FCC. Those in the FCC and in the Congress should certainly know by now that when all else fails, Amateur Radio gets through. What we do, we do well. Please just leave us alone!
Darryl Widman, KF6DI
----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Seybold To: SBARC-list@lists.netlojix.com Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: [Sbarc-list] My 2 cents on Amateur Radio
Daryl and members of the list-
Amateur radio plays a daily part in many different types of wireless communications.
Many public safety communications officials (APCO) members are hams and got their start in two-way radio
Many organizations such as the Radio Club of America are made up of 50% or more hams
Many commercial (cellular) engineers and technicians are hams
Many of those who develop next generation two-way radio products for Motorola, Harris, Icom, Kenwood and others are Hams
Ham radio serves as a gateway for many people and they go on to contribute to commercial and land mobile radio
Over the years, technologies pioneered by hams have gone on to become important contributions to the land mobile radio industry
Hams NEED to stay abreast of what is happening in the commercial and land mobile radio worlds-if we bury our heads in the sand that we won't be prepared to defend our spectrum and/or continue to contribute to the profession
For my part-
I started my career in commercial communications as a result of becoming a licensed ham radio operator in 1962
When I worked for RCA, GE, and Motorola communications companies as a sales engineer my being a ham opened many doors with communications directors in many cities and Counties and gave me a decided advantage of very competition
Today I serve on several national committees-one for APCO, as vice-chair of the broadband committee, and one for the FCC as a part of the Public Safety Advisory Council for their ERIC (Emergency Interoperability center.
Both of these committees have several ham radio operators on them and this gives us a common bond when working together.
If it were not for ham radio I would never have gotten to this point in my life-it changed my idea of what I wanted to become and do for a living, Ham radio is a daily part of my life and to ignore the aspects of radio communications which do not seem relevant to the hobby is not advisable.
For example, the speaker at the next Club meeting is, I am sure, going to discuss the threat to the 420-440 MHz hand band by a bill that is currently in Congress. But I doubt that he will address the following issues:
1) The current administration and FCC believe that narrowband communications is OLD technology and that only broadband is important going forward-never find the fact that no broadband technology supports ANY type of simplex communications, and most don't support one-to-many communications
2) In order to repurpose spectrum for broadband the FCC must FIND spectrum which is contagious. Most Land mobile radio systems are intermingled with each other-that is the police and fire channels co-exist with plumbers, trucking companies, taxi companies and others, so taking this spectrum back and converting it to broadband is not a very viable option. HOWEVER, HAMS do operate on contiguous spectrum in both the 144-148 and 420-450 bands. This makes it easy for the FCC to recommend that this spectrum be repurposed for commercial broadband systems. AND in the 420-450 bands hams are secondary to NTIA which controls the government spectrum and which has been ordered to work with the FCC to identify spectrum which can be repurposed for broadband use.
3) The section of this bill, HR607 that deals with the spectrum give back was crafted my ME-simply because the original bill wanted to take back 144-174 AND 450-512 MHz for broadband use. We have exactly 15 minutes to write this portion of the bill on the day it was introduced and so I came up with this compromise AND added some conditions which would insure this will never happen. The next two paragraphs of the bill deal with how and when the spectrum would be given back and it is virtually impossible for this to happen.
a. The REASON this was put into the bill is that the bills need to be "scored" in order for it to make to the floor of the House-the higher the score the more importance the will have-AND once the scoring is done there will be many amendments to the bill.
b. I have attached my slides which I will be presenting on Sat to a group in Ventura FYI.
In Closing let me say that Ham radio is the foundation for the land mobile and commercial cellular world-AND to focus just on ham radio and NOT be aware of what is happening in the rest of the world of wireless is, to me, short sighted and dangerous.
Andy W6AMS
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Darryl-thanks for the note, I only wish it were that easy-the FCC and Congress have not idea that when all else fails the Hams will be there. In spite of all of the ARRL activity on the Hill, there are powers much greater than the ham radio community at work here. An example, 2 years ago Public Safety was told that they had no chance to get the D block re-allocated to them. The NAB and others had a much stronger lobby and bigger check books, but Public Safety did not just roll over and play dead and now there are 5 bills in congress giving public safety the needed spectrum. They still need to be consolidated and passed HOWEVER, we are very close to making that happen prior to the 10 anniversary of 9/11.
The Ham community NEEDS to educate the STAFF members of our representatives they are the ones who recommend to their bosses, the Representatives and Senators, what is important and what is not and frankly the ARRL has NOT done a great job of conveying this information.
It we are to continue to be able to use our short range communications spectrum (2Meters and 440) then we MUST get busy NOW.
And if you look at the Japan emergency I am sure you noticed that Google has all but replaced ham radio as the way to find your loved ones in the area-free to all who have Internet access, which just make it all the harder to tell our story-a story worth telling because it is true.
Andy
From: Darryl Widman [mailto:auditron@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:33 PM To: Andrew Seybold; SBARC-list@lists.netlojix.com Subject: Re: [Sbarc-list] My 2 cents on Amateur Radio
Hello Andy,
Thank you for sending this out to the troops. I wish I had received it before what Bill, W1UUQ, had sent out. What Bill sent out makes much more sense after reading this from you. Anything I said to Bill about the article written by Glenn Bischoff shouldn't reflect on where you stand on Amateur Radio and its relationship within the RF community at large. I would say that, for the most part, we hams understand that we are blessed to have all the frequency bands that we do have and that we should never take that for granted. For as soon as we do that, we are bound to lose chunks of it. And then, when the public needs us the most to provide those emergency communications that we freely proivide, the !#$%^& will hit the fan. That would truly be a shame because lives and property could be lost. I know I am preaching to the choir. Thank goodness for the ARRL standing up for all the Amateur Radio operators, what we do and where we do it. We do it in the radio spectrum as granted to us by the FCC. Those in the FCC and in the Congress should certainly know by now that when all else fails, Amateur Radio gets through. What we do, we do well. Please just leave us alone!
Darryl Widman, KF6DI
----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Seyboldmailto:aseybold@andrewseybold.com To: SBARC-list@lists.netlojix.commailto:SBARC-list@lists.netlojix.com Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: [Sbarc-list] My 2 cents on Amateur Radio
Daryl and members of the list-
Amateur radio plays a daily part in many different types of wireless communications. Many public safety communications officials (APCO) members are hams and got their start in two-way radio Many organizations such as the Radio Club of America are made up of 50% or more hams Many commercial (cellular) engineers and technicians are hams Many of those who develop next generation two-way radio products for Motorola, Harris, Icom, Kenwood and others are Hams
Ham radio serves as a gateway for many people and they go on to contribute to commercial and land mobile radio Over the years, technologies pioneered by hams have gone on to become important contributions to the land mobile radio industry
Hams NEED to stay abreast of what is happening in the commercial and land mobile radio worlds-if we bury our heads in the sand that we won't be prepared to defend our spectrum and/or continue to contribute to the profession
For my part- I started my career in commercial communications as a result of becoming a licensed ham radio operator in 1962 When I worked for RCA, GE, and Motorola communications companies as a sales engineer my being a ham opened many doors with communications directors in many cities and Counties and gave me a decided advantage of very competition Today I serve on several national committees-one for APCO, as vice-chair of the broadband committee, and one for the FCC as a part of the Public Safety Advisory Council for their ERIC (Emergency Interoperability center. Both of these committees have several ham radio operators on them and this gives us a common bond when working together.
If it were not for ham radio I would never have gotten to this point in my life-it changed my idea of what I wanted to become and do for a living, Ham radio is a daily part of my life and to ignore the aspects of radio communications which do not seem relevant to the hobby is not advisable.
For example, the speaker at the next Club meeting is, I am sure, going to discuss the threat to the 420-440 MHz hand band by a bill that is currently in Congress. But I doubt that he will address the following issues:
1) The current administration and FCC believe that narrowband communications is OLD technology and that only broadband is important going forward-never find the fact that no broadband technology supports ANY type of simplex communications, and most don't support one-to-many communications
2) In order to repurpose spectrum for broadband the FCC must FIND spectrum which is contagious. Most Land mobile radio systems are intermingled with each other-that is the police and fire channels co-exist with plumbers, trucking companies, taxi companies and others, so taking this spectrum back and converting it to broadband is not a very viable option. HOWEVER, HAMS do operate on contiguous spectrum in both the 144-148 and 420-450 bands. This makes it easy for the FCC to recommend that this spectrum be repurposed for commercial broadband systems. AND in the 420-450 bands hams are secondary to NTIA which controls the government spectrum and which has been ordered to work with the FCC to identify spectrum which can be repurposed for broadband use.
3) The section of this bill, HR607 that deals with the spectrum give back was crafted my ME-simply because the original bill wanted to take back 144-174 AND 450-512 MHz for broadband use. We have exactly 15 minutes to write this portion of the bill on the day it was introduced and so I came up with this compromise AND added some conditions which would insure this will never happen. The next two paragraphs of the bill deal with how and when the spectrum would be given back and it is virtually impossible for this to happen.
a. The REASON this was put into the bill is that the bills need to be "scored" in order for it to make to the floor of the House-the higher the score the more importance the will have-AND once the scoring is done there will be many amendments to the bill.
b. I have attached my slides which I will be presenting on Sat to a group in Ventura FYI.
In Closing let me say that Ham radio is the foundation for the land mobile and commercial cellular world-AND to focus just on ham radio and NOT be aware of what is happening in the rest of the world of wireless is, to me, short sighted and dangerous.
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