Ok Marvin--but what makes you think that by making that statement you can change people's mind-it is up to the membership, plain and simple, you are not a member you have just managed to stir to pot for your own pleasure and enjoyment. Not a great way to support this great club. Andy
-----Original Message----- From: Marvin Johnston [mailto:marvin@west.net] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:32 PM To: Andrew Seybold Subject: Re: [Sbarc-list] SBRC; Can it live on in this environment?
Ok, if either the vote on the revisions is cancelled or the revisions are defeated, and a qualified consultant is retained to evaluate the club, I'll rejoin and start to get involved again as well.
One person I would agree to without hesitation is Jeff Reinhardt, AA6JR, the Santa Barbara section PIO. His bio from the 2013 SW Division Convention:
"Jeff Reinhardt has been a public relations professional for over 30 years. He is a Life Member of the ARRL, is currently the Public Information Coordinator for the Santa Barbara Section and served as the former chair of the League's National Public Relations Committee. His work has been published in newspapers and in ham publications. Jeff conducts "how to" seminars for beginning and experienced PIOs."
Jeff is well known to SBARC as he has spoken at least three times that I can remember at club meetings over the past 20 years. He belongs to the Conejo Valley Amateur Radio Club.
Thanks!
Marvin, KE6HTS
On 2013-11-10 17:57, Andrew Seybold wrote:
Ok Marina-and I will contribute to some of the cost of said consultant-who else will kick in?
Andy
*From:*sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com [mailto:sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com] *On Behalf Of *Marina King *Sent:* Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:48 PM *To:* Jay Hennigan *Cc:* sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com *Subject:* Re: [Sbarc-list] SBRC; Can it live on in this environment?
How about having the club acquire a consultant, either from the ARRL or a successful club that we would like to model ourselves after. The person would be objective and would have the necessary skills to take us in the direction we want to go in order to meet our ultimate goals. My 2ยข.
Marina, KA6JWL
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net mailto:jay@west.net> wrote:
On 11/10/13 12:33 PM, Andrew Seybold wrote:
Jay--enough--you have made your points and I have made mine
Actually, you haven't. You've called names, launched personal attacks, and spread FUD. You haven't justified the drastic changes at all. Even Mr. Anonymous went section-by-section with justifications.
You've made vague and scary predictions of doom and gloom without anything to back them up, and without demonstrating one single tie between the proposed changes and a solution to these supposed problems.
--up to the members to decide how they want to move forward--I have my view, you have yours and others have their own view, let's see what the membership wants.
I hope that they have both the time and facts to make an *informed* decision, both of which the "pro-change" side obviously seeks to prevent.
Andy (end of dialogue)
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