Simple Marvin--you have not been involved recently--times have changed, things have changed what worked 10 years ago no longer work, the Internet, technology, and new issues with the FCC and education have changed, so where have you been? I don't know what will work best all I know is that what we have won't continue to work going forward, I am not afraid of change I embrace it IF it is done logically and for a purpose. I do consulting for a living and to many times those who hire me are set in their ways, not willing to investigate new ways of doing things, not willing to consider change--change is bad correct? WRONG, if change helps us regain what we used to be and what we can become then change is good. Change is scary--but it can work-- Andy
-----Original Message----- From: sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com [mailto:sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com] On Behalf Of Marvin Johnston Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 6:15 PM To: sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com Subject: Re: [Sbarc-list] SBRC; Can it live on in this environment?
Hi Andy,
First, does your not saying you agree with the existing bylaws changes (hopefully) mean you don't support them, and will vote against them?
What would you consider to be proof that SBARC could survive as it has done for the past 90 years?
There is no question both of us have dedicated a lot of time in an attempt to make SBARC a better club.
I dedicated some 17 years trying to help SBARC, most of that time as a board member, with the emphasis on benefits to the membership... mostly being the lone ranger in that attempt. That includes a number of stints as hamfest chair, 3 terms as (IMO a not so good) president, organized the beginners t-hunt at Lake Los Carnaros, started the free-to-good table, taking the 2009 hamfest to a section hamfest to a division convention before the board dumped it, and the list goes on.
So why is it you think I don't know what I am talking about?
Thanks!
Marvin
On 2013-11-10 17:48, Andrew Seybold wrote:
Jay--you don't engage in constructive dialog you engage in bashing and throwing things back--I have never said that I agree with the existing revision to the bylaws all I have said is that there need to be changes if we are to survive, I also challenged you and Marvin to PROVE that we could survive as we have been for years--you have no answer for that so have ignored that, I asked you to provide your ideas for making the club better you did not, I never said I had the answers, I only said that we had issues which need to be fixed--you and Marvin jumped on that and tore it out of context and engaged in finger pointing and comments about what you think without knowing for sure any of what you talk about.
I have given my time, my energy and my capabilities to this club. What have you done in the past 5 years to assist us?
Step up or step down
Andy
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