Jay--you don't engage in constructive dialog you engage in bashing and throwing things back--I have never said that I agree with the existing revision to the bylaws all I have said is that there need to be changes if we are to survive, I also challenged you and Marvin to PROVE that we could survive as we have been for years--you have no answer for that so have ignored that, I asked you to provide your ideas for making the club better you did not, I never said I had the answers, I only said that we had issues which need to be fixed--you and Marvin jumped on that and tore it out of context and engaged in finger pointing and comments about what you think without knowing for sure any of what you talk about.
I have given my time, my energy and my capabilities to this club. What have you done in the past 5 years to assist us?
Step up or step down
Andy
-----Original Message----- From: sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com [mailto:sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com] On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:41 PM To: sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com Subject: Re: [Sbarc-list] SBRC; Can it live on in this environment?
On 11/10/13 12:33 PM, Andrew Seybold wrote:
Jay--enough--you have made your points and I have made mine
Actually, you haven't. You've called names, launched personal attacks, and spread FUD. You haven't justified the drastic changes at all. Even Mr. Anonymous went section-by-section with justifications.
You've made vague and scary predictions of doom and gloom without anything to back them up, and without demonstrating one single tie between the proposed changes and a solution to these supposed problems.
--up to the members to decide how they want to move forward--I have my view, you have yours and others have their own view, let's see what the membership wants.
I hope that they have both the time and facts to make an *informed* decision, both of which the "pro-change" side obviously seeks to prevent.
Andy (end of dialogue)
Goodbye.
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