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Upcoming bylaws vote - dangerous precedent
by Jay Hennigan 17 Nov '17

17 Nov '17

There are two proposals on tonight's ballot. One is for the membership to approve a dues increase from $24 per year to $35 per year. I am in favor of this. It has been a very long time since the dues were raised, inflation has taken its toll, our systems are aging, and we have taken on many new projects. The other proposal is in my opinion far more dangerous, and I urge you to vote against it. As the Club is presently structured, the Board of directors sets the dues. This has been the case for several decades. Once the Board votes to change the dues, this change must be approved by the membership at a regular meeting. The proposed change to the bylaws removes the provision that the membership ratify any dues increase. Having the Club membership ratify dues increases is an important safeguard against a future Board that seeks to take on more than the membership can support and fund it on the backs of an unwilling membership. To the best of my knowledge, the membership has never failed to ratify any increase in dues presented in my 40-plus years of SBARC membership, so there should not be any need to change the bylaws removing this important protection. The Board asks that we trust them. The Board already sets the dues. This doesn't change that, but it removes the safeguard against unreasonable increases that we now enjoy. Ronald Reagan used to quote an old Russian proverb, "Trust, but verify". This proposed change removes your ability as members to verify. This Board may be reasonable, but future Boards may not. Even with this Board, I have evidence that there was an attempt to raise one member's dues even before the increase was to be voted on at tonight's meeting. Despite assurances that this would be corrected, the evidence shows that it has not been. This is a hint of what may happen in the future. Please vote to approve the dues increase. Please vote NO on the bylaws change that would give this and future Boards the ability to raise your dues at will and remove your ability to prevent unreasonable increases. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay(a)impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV

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ARES Exercise
by Bill Talanian 14 Nov '17

14 Nov '17

QST QST QST ARES will be conducting a county-wide communications exercise with the Santa Barbara County Public Health Department and the Office of Emergency Management on Thursday, November 16, from 0800 to 1200 hours. (Set up will be at 0800 with comm checks around 0830. The drill itself will start at 0900 hours.) The 146.79 repeater will be used for south county operations and the 224.08 repeater will be linked to service all north county activity. The 446.4 repeater will be used for traffic between the EOC and the Public Health Department’s Department Operating Center. Linking between 146.79 and 145.18 will remain off to facilitate exercise communications. It is likely the operations will be concluded prior to 1200 hours. At the present time, they expect to have an open net until such time as the exercise begins, so an abbreviated SBARC morning net on 146.79 seems like it will not interfere. But space should be left between transmissions for emergency or exercise traffic. As soon as normal communications is restored at the hospitals, which is anticipated to be around 1100 hours, the net will either be terminated or put on open net status. ARES thanks all SBARC members and repeater users for their cooperation. Bill Talanian Trustee

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Re: [Sbarc-list] SBARC-list Digest, Vol 172, Issue 5
by theo howe 13 Nov '17

13 Nov '17

I agree. Let’s put this to rest. Below is the definition of “political” as defined by Websters: 1a :of or relating to government, a government, or the conduct of government b :of, relating to, or concerned with the making as distinguished from the administration of governmental policy<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/policy> 2:of, relating to, involving, or involved in politics<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politics> and especially party politics 3:organized in governmental terms * political units As far as I can tell, American flags and federal holidays have nothing to do with politics. Theo Howe KK6YYZ On Nov 13, 2017, at 12:00 PM, <sbarc-list-request(a)lists.netlojix.com<mailto:sbarc-list-request@lists.netlojix.com>> <sbarc-list-request(a)lists.netlojix.com<mailto:sbarc-list-request@lists.netlojix.com>> wrote: Send SBARC-list mailing list submissions to sbarc-list(a)lists.netlojix.com<mailto:sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.netl… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to sbarc-list-request(a)lists.netlojix.com<mailto:sbarc-list-request@lists.netlojix.com> You can reach the person managing the list at sbarc-list-owner(a)lists.netlojix.com<mailto:sbarc-list-owner@lists.netlojix.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of SBARC-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Veterans Day recognition (Bill Talanian) 2. Re: Veterans Day (Jay Hennigan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:30:20 -0800 From: Bill Talanian <w1uuq(a)cox.net<mailto:w1uuq@cox.net>> To: sbarc list <sbarc-list(a)lists.netlojix.com<mailto:sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com>> Subject: [Sbarc-list] Veterans Day recognition Message-ID: <9c79cba6-aff2-29b7-a6f0-d212278e5694(a)cox.net<mailto:9c79cba6-aff2-29b7-a6f0-d212278e5694@cox.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Folks: Let me weigh in on this as it appears my simple message has been misconstrued and may have been taken as offensive. The ListServer is for communications between members and a common interest. There are 10 government holidays. Three of them are Memorial Day, Independence Day, and Veterans Day. There is absolutely nothing political in recognition of our common heritage but a patriotic reminder of those in SBARC who have given their life for our freedom. I know each and everyone who have long been forgotten. Would one be so offended if I were to post an American Flag and say, Have a Happy Fourth. I would hope not. At every SBARC general meeting in a public building we all stand and Pledge Allegiance to the Flag. Everyone stands and it is common to place ones hand over their heart. Even non-citizens stand in this observance in recognition of our sovereignty. I am accorded the option of rendering a hand salute as a veteran. There is nothing political here to offend anyone. If one is so offended by a simple patriotic posting on the ListServer then the power is in their hands to use the delete button. Sincerely, Bill Talanian, USMC (ret) Semper Fi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.netl…> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:45:12 -0800 From: Jay Hennigan <jay(a)west.net<mailto:jay@west.net>> To: sbarc-list(a)lists.netlojix.com<mailto:sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com> Subject: Re: [Sbarc-list] Veterans Day Message-ID: <d769509e-0375-54d1-d99a-b6cacbba0d36(a)west.net<mailto:d769509e-0375-54d1-d99a-b6cacbba0d36@west.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 11/12/17 9:39 PM, Stephen Pope via SBARC-list wrote: Just a question: is the SBARC list open to any member to post non-radio-related political content? Oh good grief. Stephen, I assumed that your question was general in nature and you accidentally piggybacked on Bill's note. If it was in reference to Bill's posting, then in my opinion your question isn't relevant. Honoring those who served our country is no more political content than wishing someone merry Christmas is hard-core religious proselytizing. There may be some non-US members of the list just as there may be some who don't celebrate Christmas. No big deal. To bring this back to amateur radio, Riley Hollingsworth's presentation has some merit with regard to content you may encounter both on the air and off the air including on this list. https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtu… Use the big knob if you're that easily offended. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay(a)impulse.net<mailto:jay@impulse.net> Impulse Internet Service - https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.impuls… Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ SBARC-list mailing list SBARC-list(a)lists.netlojix.com<mailto:SBARC-list@lists.netlojix.com> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.netl… End of SBARC-list Digest, Vol 172, Issue 5 ******************************************

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Veterans Day
by William Talanian 13 Nov '17

13 Nov '17

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Veterans Day recognition
by Bill Talanian 13 Nov '17

13 Nov '17

Folks: Let me weigh in on this as it appears my simple message has been misconstrued and may have been taken as offensive. The ListServer is for communications between members and a common interest. There are 10 government holidays. Three of them are Memorial Day, Independence Day, and Veterans Day. There is absolutely nothing political in recognition of our common heritage but a patriotic reminder of those in SBARC who have given their life for our freedom. I know each and everyone who have long been forgotten. Would one be so offended if I were to post an American Flag and say, Have a Happy Fourth. I would hope not. At every SBARC general meeting in a public building we all stand and Pledge Allegiance to the Flag. Everyone stands and it is common to place ones hand over their heart. Even non-citizens stand in this observance in recognition of our sovereignty. I am accorded the option of rendering a hand salute as a veteran. There is nothing political here to offend anyone. If one is so offended by a simple patriotic posting on the ListServer then the power is in their hands to use the delete button. Sincerely, Bill Talanian, USMC (ret) Semper Fi

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Re: [Sbarc-list] SBARC-list Digest, Vol 172, Issue 3
by theo howe 12 Nov '17

12 Nov '17

Hi Stephen- The purpose of the SBARC list server is to facilitate communication of members regarding Amateur radio and related activities. We discourage religious and/or political threads. At the very bottom of the page, theres a link to the page which explains some of the guidelines for posting. Thanks! Theo Howe KK6YYZ > On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:45 PM, <sbarc-list-request(a)lists.netlojix.com> <sbarc-list-request(a)lists.netlojix.com> wrote: > > Send SBARC-list mailing list submissions to > sbarc-list(a)lists.netlojix.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.netl… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sbarc-list-request(a)lists.netlojix.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sbarc-list-owner(a)lists.netlojix.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of SBARC-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Veterans Day (Stephen Pope) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2017 21:39:31 -0800 > From: Stephen Pope <stephen(a)heaveneverywhere.com> > To: sbarc list <sbarc-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> > Cc: William Talanian <w1uuq(a)cox.net> > Subject: Re: [Sbarc-list] Veterans Day > Message-ID: > <432EF0B3-FE10-4EC9-B7C0-A03A582EDFF6(a)heaveneverywhere.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Just a question: is the SBARC list open to any member to post non-radio-related political content? > > Stephen Pope - W6STP > > -- > > Stephen Travis Pope Santa Barbara, California, USA > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FHeavenEver… <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheavenever…> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FFASTLabInc… <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffastlabinc…> > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com… <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com…> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fheavenever… > > -- > > >> On Nov 11, 2017, at 5:34 AM, William Talanian via SBARC-list <sbarc-list(a)lists.netlojix.com> wrote: >> >> >> <VetsDay1775.pdf>_______________________________________________ >> SBARC-list mailing list >> SBARC-list(a)lists.netlojix.com >> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.netl… > >

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Fwd: Fwd: [VC ACS] SKYWARN Recognition Day 12/2/17
by Bill Talanian 06 Nov '17

06 Nov '17

Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [VC ACS] SKYWARN Recognition Day 12/2/17 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 02:50:59 +0000 From: Robert H. w6rh(a)hotmail.com [VC_ACS] <VC_ACS-noreply(a)yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Robert H. <w6rh(a)hotmail.com> It's that time of year again It is once again time for the annual announcement of the SKYWARN Recognition Day (SRD). SRD 2017 will be held Saturday, December 2, 2017, from 0000z to 2400z. Usually, Ventura County operates from early Saturday morning 7 AM to 4 PM. Much like Field Day, we set up portable stations at the Oxnard NWS office, and make as many contacts as possible. Unlike Field Day, repeaters, internet linking, and most communication methods are acceptable. SRD was developed in 1999 by the National Weather Service and the American Radio Relay League. It celebrates the contributions that SKYWARN volunteers make to the NWS mission, the protection of life and property. Amateur radio operators comprise a large percentage of the SKYWARN volunteers across the country. The official SRD web site will continue to be http://hamradio.noaa.gov <http://hamradio.noaa.gov/>. This site is still being updated for the 2017 event, so you will continue to see the 2016 information for a short time to come. Once this years page is loaded it will be updated periodically with information about the event. On behalf of the SRD team we want to thank you in advance for your continued support of SRD. It continues to be a popular event in the amateur radio community. If you would like to participate, please let me know. Would someone care to be the coordinator for this event? 73 Rob cid:image001.jpg@01D336A6.6859C120 *ROBERT HANSON* *Ventura County ACS Radio Officer * *Ventura County ARES District Emergency Coordinator* 805-901-0147 - w6rh(a)hotmail.com <mailto:w6rh@hotmail.com> __._,_.___ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Robert H. <w6rh(a)hotmail.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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ICOM IC-F4011 programming cable and software
by Ken Alker 31 Oct '17

31 Oct '17

Would anyone happen to have an Icom programming cable, and/or the software for ICOM radios (the IC-F4011 in particular, but maybe it is universal w/Icom)? If not, is there anyone you suggest I ask? Thanks! Ken

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Hammer drill
by Bill Talanian 29 Oct '17

29 Oct '17

Wanted for club task Electric Rotary Hammer drill with hammer only option, with 9-10" X 1" inch chisel bit for chipping concrete. This is for one time use at repeater site for punching through reinforced concrete back fill in concrete block wall. Contact: Bill Talanian <w1uuq(a)cox.net>

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Bob Thornburg, WB6JPI SK
by Marvin Johnston 16 Oct '17

16 Oct '17

I just got the message below a few minutes ago. Bob was very well known in the t-hunting community, and helped out a number of times at the Yuma Hamfest with the antenna building clinic and subsequent training. RIP Bob. Marvin, KE6HTS > It is with a heavy heart that I must share that Bob, WB6JPI passed away > last night. > I don't have any further details at this time. > > Bob was a true ham, always sharing his knowledge and lending a helpful hand. > I will miss him very much. > > RIP Bob. > > Tom, K6VCR

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