Gentlemen,
I have been on this list for a long long time, have 4 jukeboxes AMI-C,
Wurlitzer 2700, and a Seeburg HF100R and an M100A.
I have just picked up a 3W1 to hopefully hook up to my HF100R. Looking it
over it looks like it only needs the glass dome and coin glass. Ordered from
Victory Glass.
I do not know much about Wall Boxes yet there is some information in my
HF100R Manual. Some Questions for the Group.
Looking for Gasket for the dome glass I see a set for sale for the 3WA 200
selection are they the same?
I am a little confused on a Stepper? Or is that a Wurlitzer thing?
Does the 3W1 just plug in to the selection receiver?
I will get into the manual as soon as I have a little more time.
Thanks for any help or advice you can share.
John Gartman
W6JPG
Other parts to check via Ron was secure clamping of the record. Clamp arm spring and center pin entering TT with no resistance when clamping record. Motor coupler and oiling motor with
his favorite ND 20 wt oil thru all of the drive train. It didn’t have a motor support plug but added one.
I would at least check the bearing for no flat spots and screw condition even if u have no play
In TT. Kent
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A quick update thank you Rob for the detailed instructions very helpful. I
replaced the Cartridge with the NOS one from eBay it sounds fantastic! I
did replace the Sapphire needle that came with the cart it for a new
diamond needle. I did have to make a small adjustment to the trip switch
but other than that good to go.
This was for an elderly couple both in their 80’s and they were thrilled to
hear it playing again.
Regards Don
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 5:17 PM Donald Whiting <pinplayers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Rob thanks for the detailed instructions it’s just what I needed. I
> removed the arm and ended up bringing it back to my shop to solder the
> wires to the new cart connectors as they were a bit different. The cart I
> purchased off eBay looks to be like new and included an original Safire
> needle o e side for 78 the other for 45.
>
> Here the link:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/295457104166?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-235…
>
> Don
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:15 AM Chan Gade <chan.gade(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think the question here is how to work on fitting the new cart into the
>> arm…Right?
>>
>> The arm is removed from the machine by doing the following:
>>
>> Remove the plug coming from the cart into a receptacle in back of the
>> arch.
>>
>> Remove the two screws holding the arm assembly (be careful not to drop
>> them into the mech).
>>
>> Work the arm free of the trip switch and lift lever. You’ll all the
>> easily and it really is simple once you look at it.
>>
>> Whatever new cart you use will probably require some rebalancing of the
>> arm. There is an adjustable counterweight for this in the tail of the arm.
>> When I installed a magnetic cart in these mechs I had to add some extra
>> counterweight. I simply glued a bolt in a pocket in the tail of the arm and
>> that brought things back into range for proper balance.
>>
>> On these later mechs, the trip switch can be adjusted so that it doesn’t
>> load the arm till the very end of the record, often just past the playing
>> grooves.
>>
>> Balancing can be tricky since the wires will slightly affect the setting.
>> Wurlitzer recommends doing it with arm in mech and in play mode with a
>> piece of thread holding the arm away from the stripper plate (the fan
>> shaped plastic).The thread would be around the arm and the smaller arm that
>> holds the pressure spring.
>>
>> The setdown point will probably need adjusting. This is done with the
>> screw at top of the guide fork. You’ll see that easily.
>>
>> Depending on the cart you use it –may—be necessary to bend the brush arm
>> or even slightly cut away some bristles to get proper brush contact with
>> just the stylus.
>>
>> All this reads as more complicated than it will be once you are looking
>> at it, so don’t get discouraged by my longwinded description. I’ve worked
>> on over 60 of these mechs and converted at least 18 to magnetic carts,
>> including me own:
>>
>> 1700
>> 1800 (3)Two conv. mag.
>> 2100 -Wico'd titleboard
>> 2150
>> 2304 (Stereo converted)
>> 2300 (orig stereo)
>> 2300 (Stereo converted FrankenJuke: 3100 Mech and elect.)
>> 2300 Kept mono amp, conv. mag pickup.
>> 2400 (mono w/mag conv.)
>> 2400 (Stereo mag conv.)
>> 2600 (Mag conv.)
>> 2710 (100 sel)
>> 2810
>> 2900
>> 3000
>> 3110 (100 sel)
>> 3200
>>
>> Personally, I like the wurlitzer carousel mech. They must be well oiled
>> and the record lift springs should be weakened (I can describe). But
>> overall, it was a good mech and Wurlitzer best.
>>
>> RobNYC
>>
>>
>>
2 yrs ago I worked on my neighbors USC-1. His band The Mystics had a hit song “Hushabye” .
After recapping this juke his record sounded terrible (wavering). Other records not as noticeable. With Ron R’s help I tried many fixes. Nothing helped until he said try to see if the TT thrust is correct with .003” play. Mine had at least 1/8” and would not adj with thrust screw adj. The adj screw was hollowed out on the end from wear. Replacing screw and adj fixed the wavering problem. I had to buy 25 screws, so if anyone needs 1 let me know.
Kent
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Issue: The mechanism picks up and plays the first record (R8) no matter what selection is made. Also, while scanning and a selection is made, the mechanism immediately plays what ever record it's near.
The jukebox was selecting fine. The issue appeared after I replaced the TJU3 with a RCSU3 and hooked up a wallbox. Using the wallbox to select a record exhibited the above issue. I then reversed my work, replacing the RSCU3 with the original TJU3 but the jukebox continues to exhibit the selection issue described above.
I re-seated all the connectors with no improvement.
I figured something happened when I replaced the TJU3 with the RCSU3 but have yet to figure it out.
I have the manual and can start the trouble shooting guides but was hoping someone could deduce what happened between hooking up the RCSU and then reinstalling the original TJU3 in the TSU5. (Previous fix: replaced both AO2s, 6X4, 6X4 socket, C515, C514, R518).
Thanks for any insight!
jerold k
On 1/1/2023 6:23 PM, Tony Miklos wrote:
> Trying to narrow down this annoying warble sound. Does it on all
> records but not always easy to hear. I only hear it in the vocals and
> just on the A side. B sides are OK. The motor mounts are all nice
> and soft as is the motor coupler. It does it at all volumes low or
> high, low or high bass/treble. Can a failing motor drive cap cause
> it? I know the motor cap is getting switched going from play to
> select/scan mode, that difference is easy to hear from the motor.
This machine is mine and although it's in nice condition, they are so
ugly I might have to part it out. It got put aside but I have limited
space for other machines in the shop so I'd like to sell it/get rid of
it. I can't sell it with the warble. Any clues yet as to what is
causing this? I didn't try changing the motor cap since it does it on
only one side.
Hello all,
I recently rebuilt my AMI G-80 amplifier. I replaced all the capacitors and
Ive noticed that I am getting a little humming from my speaker and a little
squelchy noise from time to time when my records play. Does anyone have any
thoughts?
Thanks as always
Jamie
I’m about replace a couple original electrolytic caps in a Seeburg RCSU3 before hooking it up for the first time. Two of the caps are 25uf/50V. I have either 22uf/50V or 33uf/50V. Any suggestions of which would be a better replacement or should I seek out 25uf’s. Thanks.
Thanks!!
> Il 17/01/2023 19:51, Chan Gade ha scritto:
> Here it is on an arm in the I-200:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/90641375@N06/37325736231/ The hyperlink
> probably won't get through, so copy/paste.
>
> Attached is a shot of the Continental 1 with counterweight. I did this
> in 1986. It was necessary to cut off a small section of the mech dress
> cap to clear the added counterweight.
>
> RobNYC
--
Federico Croci
wiz(a)tilt.it
www.tilt.it
I am pretty sure the cartridge you have was used on the G200 and newer like H and I models.
Not sure. I don't have those models or manuals for them. You would have to research that.
F80 F120 and G80 G120 would use the GE RPX - 040 style. Thats the one I see in them and use.
You need to diagnose your problem before wasting money on cartridges. Even the one you are using
should make no difference and sound good. You need to check what I have listed at minimum.
A good cartridge option is Shure M77 series. It will fit with minimal modifications. Don't solder the tonearm
cable to the cartridge. use some adapters. Again, diagnose the problem first.
Joey McDonald
From: "Jamie McElroy" <jamie.mcelroy1(a)gmail.com>
To: "joeymcd" <joeymcd(a)mymts.net>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 10:11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] AMI G sound quality with stereo records
Also my cartridge is the GE RPJ-047 if that makes a difference when discussion alternative cartridge options. Thanks again. - Jamie
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 6:26 PM joeymcd < [ mailto:joeymcd@mymts.net | joeymcd(a)mymts.net ] > wrote:
Could be many reasons.
Have you checked the tracking weight?
Tonearm height and level?
What is the condtion of the records you are playing?
What is the condition of the amplifier?
I have had AMI F and G jukes for a long time and no issues using the stereo compliant
stylus with the original GE cartridge.
There are some cartridge options if your cartridge is not original.
Also you can plug in an external turntable to the amplifier for sound diagnosis.
Joey McDonald
From: "Jamie McElroy" < [ mailto:jamie.mcelroy1@gmail.com | jamie.mcelroy1(a)gmail.com ] >
To: "joeymcd" < [ mailto:joeymcd@mymts.net | joeymcd(a)mymts.net ] >
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 5:11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Question
Thank you Joey. I did purchase a new stylus from Needles for Jukeboxes and it was a .7 Mil needle. However it still does not play stereo records well at all. The volume and quality is far inferior compared to the 50's and 60's records. Thank you again.
Jamie
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 3:10 PM joeymcd < [ mailto:joeymcd@mymts.net | joeymcd(a)mymts.net ] > wrote:
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Do you have the original GE cartridge in there?
If you do then you probably had a 1 mil stylus in there designed to play mono records.
The size of the needle fits the size of the groove on mono records of the 50's and some early 60's records.
If you replaced with the same one then that would explain why there is no change.
Using a 1 mil stylus on stereo records of the early 60's and newer will damage the records.
Stereo records are designed to be used with a .7 mil stylus that fits the groove.
Using a 1 mil mono needles on stereo records will plow out the records grooves and cause damage.
Alternatively using a .7 mil stereo stylus you can play mono and stereo records.
I use a .7 mil stylus in my AMI F and G and it works well.
Needles for jukeboxes sells the stereo .7 mil needle.
Joey McDonald
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 6:35:12 AM
Subject: [Jukebox-list] Question
Hello all,
I have an AMI G-80 and I recently replaced the original stylus with a new
one. However, even before the change some records particularly mid to late
70's record as well as 80's records play at a low audio output. I have
found some of these records do not play at the same audio strength as 50's
and 60's records. Ami I doing something wrong or has anyone else noticed
this with an older jukebox? Please give me your thoughts. Thank you
Jamie
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