New, smaller board
Hi all, There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on who would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new bylaws. Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a smaller board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve on it. Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually depends more on the character of the person than the job description. Bruce N6OLT
Hello all, I have avoided responding to this mess, but feel I need to say two things because some facts are being left out here. 1) Darryl was provided with a list of people willing to serve on the smaller board, why he did not publish that list as well I do not know. 2) Several people know, including Mr Anonymous has mentioned that the bylaws change came from one person or people and not the board. This is simply not true. I was at the last board meeting and witnessed the board vote and pass the motion to vote on amended bylaws at the November general meeting. Take care and I hope to see all of you at the November Club meeting! Jordan KJ6YVJ On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, <bgordon@rain.org> wrote:
Hi all,
There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on who would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new bylaws. Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a smaller board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve on it. Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually depends more on the character of the person than the job description.
Bruce N6OLT
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Hi Jordan, The way most small boards work is it plays follow the leader in voting. Off hand, I can't think of any exceptions during the time I was on the SBARC board, nor with the other two organizations where I am a board member. So you are correct with your comments that the board voted for the bylaws. But you need to take a look at who and why they voted as they did to more fully understand the process. Darryl was not responsible for publishing the list, only for compiling it. And I've heard quite a few comments asking why the list was not published on the website. Thanks! Marvin, KE6HTS On 2013-11-11 11:45, Jordan wrote:
Hello all,
I have avoided responding to this mess, but feel I need to say two things because some facts are being left out here.
1) Darryl was provided with a list of people willing to serve on the smaller board, why he did not publish that list as well I do not know.
2) Several people know, including Mr Anonymous has mentioned that the bylaws change came from one person or people and not the board. This is simply not true. I was at the last board meeting and witnessed the board vote and pass the motion to vote on amended bylaws at the November general meeting.
Take care and I hope to see all of you at the November Club meeting!
Jordan KJ6YVJ
Bruce--well said and I have to admit that I was surprised when I saw the list of nominations for the officers--I wish, as a member of the club I had a choice of multiple candidates for some of the offices--a no vote is my only option I guess but normally those running for office for any Board I am associated with at least have to post a bio and a several paragraph statement about why they want to run for office and what their plans are for executing that office--looks as if this time we are stuck with some candidates that I just cannot support in good conscience. Further the list was just made available to us. Some of the people on here have felt as if the move to a smaller board was to gain power for the few--now what I am seeing is that the nominations are designed to serve the few who have been working in the back-ground to set-up their own agenda instead of giving the members a far opportunity to voice their thoughts and opinions. Andy W6AMS -----Original Message----- From: sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com [mailto:sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com] On Behalf Of bgordon@rain.org Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:02 AM To: sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com Subject: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board Hi all, There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on who would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new bylaws. Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a smaller board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve on it. Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually depends more on the character of the person than the job description. Bruce N6OLT _______________________________________________ SBARC-list mailing list SBARC-list@lists.netlojix.com http://lists.netlojix.com/mailman/listinfo/sbarc-list
I too am a little confused about this. Some potential candidates have indicated their willingness to serve only if the board was reduced in size. Others have indicated the opposite. I received what looked to be an official club meeting notice last evening that did not mention the vote to change the bylaws. It presented a list of candidates for 10 of the 13 board positions as if the failure of the proposed bylaw change was a foregone conclusion. It appeared to have been sent to the entire member roster and not just to this reflector. The emailed club meeting notice seems to completely side-step the bylaw change portion of the election. So, are we going to vote on the candidates first, or the bylaws first? If the proposed bylaw changes pass, then some board positions will be eliminated, so obviously the candidate list will change and there may then be multiple candidates for an office. As it looks now, we only have one choice for each office. Will these candidates still serve in some capacity if the board seat for which they are a candidate is eliminated? I think a lot of members are going to be confused on this issue. Those who received the proxy ballot in the mail and then later received the official meeting notice by email, could easily think that the bylaw change vote is cancelled. Since the the notice indicated there was only one candidate for each position, it could look to some members that there is no point in voting at all. Does anyone know how this will work? Thanks, Brian - K6BPM On 11/11/2013 11:48 AM, Andrew Seybold wrote:
Bruce--well said and I have to admit that I was surprised when I saw the list of nominations for the officers--I wish, as a member of the club I had a choice of multiple candidates for some of the offices--a no vote is my only option I guess but normally those running for office for any Board I am associated with at least have to post a bio and a several paragraph statement about why they want to run for office and what their plans are for executing that office--looks as if this time we are stuck with some candidates that I just cannot support in good conscience. Further the list was just made available to us. Some of the people on here have felt as if the move to a smaller board was to gain power for the few--now what I am seeing is that the nominations are designed to serve the few who have been working in the back-ground to set-up their own agenda instead of giving the members a far opportunity to voice their thoughts and opinions.
Andy W6AMS
-----Original Message----- From: sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com [mailto:sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com] On Behalf Of bgordon@rain.org Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:02 AM To: sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com Subject: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board
Hi all,
There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on who would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new bylaws. Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a smaller board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve on it. Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually depends more on the character of the person than the job description.
Bruce N6OLT
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Hi Bruce, Great point about electing officers if the proposed bylaws unfortunately pass. The current and new bylaws changes both imply the soonest an election could be held will be the next club meeting after the candidates are announced. And since the board gets involved in submitting a list of candidates, the soonest another election would probably be held is in February, and possibly in March. And unless i missed something, there is no date for the changes to take place even if approved. Hard to check as so far, I haven't seen a copy of the revised bylaws put on the website. Sigh, Marvin, kE6HTS On 11/11/2013 11:02 AM, bgordon@rain.org wrote:
Hi all,
There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on who would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new bylaws. Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a smaller board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve on it. Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually depends more on the character of the person than the job description.
Bruce N6OLT
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Marvin Johnston <marvin@west.net> wrote:
Hi Bruce,
Great point about electing officers if the proposed bylaws unfortunately pass.
The current and new bylaws changes both imply the soonest an election could be held will be the next club meeting after the candidates are announced. And since the board gets involved in submitting a list of candidates, the soonest another election would probably be held is in February, and possibly in March.
And unless i missed something, there is no date for the changes to take place even if approved. Hard to check as so far, I haven't seen a copy of the revised bylaws put on the website.
Sigh,
Marvin, kE6HTS
On 11/11/2013 11:02 AM, bgordon@rain.org wrote: Hi all,
There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on who would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new bylaws. Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a smaller board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve on it. Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually depends more on the character of the person than the job description.
Bruce N6OLT
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