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Today's Topics:
1. Re: FW: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board (Marina King)
2. Re: New, smaller board (Jordan)
3. Re: New, smaller board (Brian Milburn - K6BPM)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:02:08 -0800
From: Marina King <marinaking@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FW: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board
To: Andrew Seybold <aseybold@andrewseybold.com>
Cc: "sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com" <sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com>
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Remember that nominations for board positions can be taken from the floor
at the general club meeting.
Marina
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Andrew Seybold <aseybold@andrewseybold.com
> wrote:
> Please see below—also would like to make it known that as a board member
> I said:
>
> If we are going to have a smaller board I will not run for one of the
> positions, however if the board is to remain the size it is then I will run
> again. But obviously the nominations committee did not contact me before
> they published the list.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> *From:* emperorjordan@gmail.com [mailto:emperorjordan@gmail.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Jordan
> *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2013 11:54 AM
> *To:* Andrew Seybold
> *Subject:* Re: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board
>
>
>
> Andy, can you please send my reply below to the list, it will not let me
> reply to the whole group:
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I have avoided responding to this mess, but feel I need to say two things
> because some facts are being left out here.
>
>
>
> 1) Darryl was provided with a list of people willing to serve on the
> smaller board, why he did not publish that list as well I do not know.
>
>
>
> 2) Several people know, including Mr Anonymous has mentioned that the
> bylaws change came from one person or people and not the board. This is
> simply not true. I was at the last board meeting and witnessed the board
> vote and pass the motion to vote on amended bylaws at the November general
> meeting.
>
>
>
> Take care and I hope to see all of you at the November Club meeting!
>
>
>
> Jordan
>
> KJ6YVJ
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Andrew Seybold <
> aseybold@andrewseybold.com> wrote:
>
> Bruce--well said and I have to admit that I was surprised when I saw the
> list of nominations for the officers--I wish, as a member of the club I had
> a choice of multiple candidates for some of the offices--a no vote is my
> only option I guess but normally those running for office for any Board I
> am associated with at least have to post a bio and a several paragraph
> statement about why they want to run for office and what their plans are
> for executing that office--looks as if this time we are stuck with some
> candidates that I just cannot support in good conscience. Further the list
> was just made available to us. Some of the people on here have felt as if
> the move to a smaller board was to gain power for the few--now what I am
> seeing is that the nominations are designed to serve the few who have been
> working in the back-ground to set-up their own agenda instead of giving the
> members a far opportunity to voice their thoughts and opinions.
>
> Andy W6AMS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com [mailto:
> sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com] On Behalf Of bgordon@rain.org
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:02 AM
> To: sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com
> Subject: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board
>
> Hi all,
>
> There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list
> recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set
> of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on who
> would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new bylaws.
> Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a smaller
> board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve on it.
> Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually depends
> more on the character of the person than the job description.
>
> Bruce N6OLT
>
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*Marina King*
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:45:05 -0800
From: Jordan <j@madtorq.com>
Subject: Re: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board
To: bgordon@rain.org
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Hello all,
I have avoided responding to this mess, but feel I need to say two things
because some facts are being left out here.
1) Darryl was provided with a list of people willing to serve on the
smaller board, why he did not publish that list as well I do not know.
2) Several people know, including Mr Anonymous has mentioned that the
bylaws change came from one person or people and not the board. This is
simply not true. I was at the last board meeting and witnessed the board
vote and pass the motion to vote on amended bylaws at the November general
meeting.
Take care and I hope to see all of you at the November Club meeting!
Jordan
KJ6YVJ
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, <bgordon@rain.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list
> recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set
> of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on
> who would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new
> bylaws. Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a
> smaller board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve
> on it. Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually
> depends more on the character of the person than the job description.
>
> Bruce N6OLT
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:27:15 -0800
From: Brian Milburn - K6BPM <brian@k6bpm.com>
Subject: Re: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board
To: sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com
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I too am a little confused about this. Some potential candidates have
indicated their willingness to serve only if the board was reduced in
size. Others have indicated the opposite.
I received what looked to be an official club meeting notice last
evening that did not mention the vote to change the bylaws. It presented
a list of candidates for 10 of the 13 board positions as if the failure
of the proposed bylaw change was a foregone conclusion. It appeared to
have been sent to the entire member roster and not just to this
reflector. The emailed club meeting notice seems to completely side-step
the bylaw change portion of the election.
So, are we going to vote on the candidates first, or the bylaws first?
If the proposed bylaw changes pass, then some board positions will be
eliminated, so obviously the candidate list will change and there may
then be multiple candidates for an office. As it looks now, we only have
one choice for each office. Will these candidates still serve in some
capacity if the board seat for which they are a candidate is eliminated?
I think a lot of members are going to be confused on this issue. Those
who received the proxy ballot in the mail and then later received the
official meeting notice by email, could easily think that the bylaw
change vote is cancelled. Since the the notice indicated there was only
one candidate for each position, it could look to some members that
there is no point in voting at all.
Does anyone know how this will work?
Thanks,
Brian - K6BPM
On 11/11/2013 11:48 AM, Andrew Seybold wrote:
> Bruce--well said and I have to admit that I was surprised when I saw the list of nominations for the officers--I wish, as a member of the club I had a choice of multiple candidates for some of the offices--a no vote is my only option I guess but normally those running for office for any Board I am associated with at least have to post a bio and a several paragraph statement about why they want to run for office and what their plans are for executing that office--looks as if this time we are stuck with some candidates that I just cannot support in good conscience. Further the list was just made available to us. Some of the people on here have felt as if the move to a smaller board was to gain power for the few--now what I am seeing is that the nominations are designed to serve the few who have been working in the back-ground to set-up their own agenda instead of giving the members a far opportunity to voice their thoughts and opinions.
>
> Andy W6AMS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com [mailto:sbarc-list-bounces@lists.netlojix.com] On Behalf Of bgordon@rain.org
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:02 AM
> To: sbarc-list@lists.netlojix.com
> Subject: [Sbarc-list] New, smaller board
>
> Hi all,
>
> There has certainly been a lot of of opinion and arguement on this list recently about club organization and leadership. Daryl has provided a set of candidates for the existing club offices. We have no information on who would stand for election for the positions under the proposed new bylaws. Because of the increased responsibilities for each member of a smaller board, it would be important to know who would be willing to serve on it. Just like in the "real world", the quality of the result usually depends more on the character of the person than the job description.
>
> Bruce N6OLT
>
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