LPAD for side speakers - Rowe Ami
Hi all, For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room. The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic. So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying. I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago. Anyhow this is my ask here. The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it. Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room. Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker. Thanks, Regards Nigel
Hi Nigel, It sounds like it should work. As an alternative, is there a way you can position the Tropicana in the corner of the room facing out? I keep mine in my office about eight feet behind me and like you say, that "stereo round" sound is fantastic. Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 05:09:43 AM PST, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote: Hi all, For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room. The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic. So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying. I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago. Anyhow this is my ask here. The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it. Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room. Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker. Thanks, Regards Nigel _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Hi Dean, Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately no, it's the only place it will now fit so I'm kind of stuck with that position. I do remember Tropicanas in bars and cafes shoved right up against a wall but commercially who would care as long as the coins went in. The issue is the sofa is in direct line of the midrange speaker so you hear a huge imbalance of mid, which in isolation of bass and treble is pretty boring. Lowering the output to the sides has absolutely solved the problem, I would just like to take it one step further now. Regards Nigel
On 10 Jan 2026 at 18:08, Dean Carriveau via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Nigel, It sounds like it should work. As an alternative, is there a way you can position the Tropicana in the corner of the room facing out? I keep mine in my office about eight feet behind me and like you say, that "stereo round" sound is fantastic. Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 05:09:43 AM PST, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room.
The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic.
So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying.
I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago.
Anyhow this is my ask here.
The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it.
Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room.
Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker.
Thanks,
Regards
Nigel
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
I get it. Fine tuning (LOL). Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 11:11:25 AM PST, Nigel Pugh <pughn@npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> wrote: Hi Dean, Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately no, it's the only place it will now fit so I'm kind of stuck with that position. I do remember Tropicanas in bars and cafes shoved right up against a wall but commercially who would care as long as the coins went in. The issue is the sofa is in direct line of the midrange speaker so you hear a huge imbalance of mid, which in isolation of bass and treble is pretty boring. Lowering the output to the sides has absolutely solved the problem, I would just like to take it one step further now. RegardsNigel On 10 Jan 2026 at 18:08, Dean Carriveau via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote: Hi Nigel, It sounds like it should work. As an alternative, is there a way you can position the Tropicana in the corner of the room facing out? I keep mine in my office about eight feet behind me and like you say, that "stereo round" sound is fantastic. Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 05:09:43 AM PST, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote: Hi all, For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room. The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic. So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying. I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago. Anyhow this is my ask here. The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it. Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room. Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker. Thanks, Regards Nigel _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Hi, Nigel: Parts Express has a good assortment of L-pads, priced pretty reasonably. A properly designed L-pad is supposed to look like 8 ohms at all settings, so not a problem for the amp. https://www.parts-express.com/speaker-components/crossover-components/speake... You can call those guys and they will help you select the best fit for your application. They have audio engineers on hand to help with the wiring if you need it. Good company. Best Mike On 2026-01-10 13:11, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list wrote:
Hi Dean,
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately no, it's the only place it will now fit so I'm kind of stuck with that position.
I do remember Tropicanas in bars and cafes shoved right up against a wall but commercially who would care as long as the coins went in.
The issue is the sofa is in direct line of the midrange speaker so you hear a huge imbalance of mid, which in isolation of bass and treble is pretty boring.
Lowering the output to the sides has absolutely solved the problem, I would just like to take it one step further now.
Regards
Nigel
On 10 Jan 2026 at 18:08, Dean Carriveau via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Nigel, It sounds like it should work. As an alternative, is there a way you can position the Tropicana in the corner of the room facing out? I keep mine in my office about eight feet behind me and like you say, that "stereo round" sound is fantastic. Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 05:09:43 AM PST, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room.
The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic.
So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying.
I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago.
Anyhow this is my ask here.
The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it.
Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room.
Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker.
Thanks,
Regards
Nigel
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Remote speakers? Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: mboessen--- via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2026 2:21:12 PM To: jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: mboessen@ktis.net <mboessen@ktis.net> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: LPAD for side speakers - Rowe Ami Hi, Nigel: Parts Express has a good assortment of L-pads, priced pretty reasonably. A properly designed L-pad is supposed to look like 8 ohms at all settings, so not a problem for the amp. https://www.parts-express.com/speaker-components/crossover-components/speake... You can call those guys and they will help you select the best fit for your application. They have audio engineers on hand to help with the wiring if you need it. Good company. Best Mike On 2026-01-10 13:11, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list wrote:
Hi Dean,
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately no, it's the only place it will now fit so I'm kind of stuck with that position.
I do remember Tropicanas in bars and cafes shoved right up against a wall but commercially who would care as long as the coins went in.
The issue is the sofa is in direct line of the midrange speaker so you hear a huge imbalance of mid, which in isolation of bass and treble is pretty boring.
Lowering the output to the sides has absolutely solved the problem, I would just like to take it one step further now.
Regards
Nigel
On 10 Jan 2026 at 18:08, Dean Carriveau via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Nigel, It sounds like it should work. As an alternative, is there a way you can position the Tropicana in the corner of the room facing out? I keep mine in my office about eight feet behind me and like you say, that "stereo round" sound is fantastic. Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 05:09:43 AM PST, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room.
The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic.
So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying.
I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago.
Anyhow this is my ask here.
The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it.
Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room.
Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker.
Thanks,
Regards
Nigel
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Thanks Mike, That's exactly what I'm looking for, thanks for the advice, Best regards Nigel
On 10 Jan 2026 at 19:21, mboessen--- via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi, Nigel:
Parts Express has a good assortment of L-pads, priced pretty reasonably. A properly designed L-pad is supposed to look like 8 ohms at all settings, so not a problem for the amp.
https://www.parts-express.com/speaker-components/crossover-components/speake...
You can call those guys and they will help you select the best fit for your application. They have audio engineers on hand to help with the wiring if you need it. Good company.
Best
Mike
On 2026-01-10 13:11, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list wrote:
Hi Dean,
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately no, it's the only place it will now fit so I'm kind of stuck with that position.
I do remember Tropicanas in bars and cafes shoved right up against a wall but commercially who would care as long as the coins went in.
The issue is the sofa is in direct line of the midrange speaker so you hear a huge imbalance of mid, which in isolation of bass and treble is pretty boring.
Lowering the output to the sides has absolutely solved the problem, I would just like to take it one step further now.
Regards
Nigel
On 10 Jan 2026 at 18:08, Dean Carriveau via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Nigel, It sounds like it should work. As an alternative, is there a way you can position the Tropicana in the corner of the room facing out? I keep mine in my office about eight feet behind me and like you say, that "stereo round" sound is fantastic. Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 05:09:43 AM PST, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room.
The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic.
So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying.
I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago.
Anyhow this is my ask here.
The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it.
Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room.
Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker.
Thanks,
Regards
Nigel
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Funnily enough that's what the original manual specifies when the jukebox is closer to one wall than the other. It suggests removing one of the wires at the crossover on each side of the jukebox. So even then it must have been a consideration. Id rather use the Jukebox own speakers though, as I don't want to distract from the jukebox sound. Regards Nigel
On 10 Jan 2026 at 19:36, karl hjort via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Remote speakers?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>; ________________________________ From: mboessen--- via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2026 2:21:12 PM To: jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: mboessen@ktis.net <mboessen@ktis.net> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: LPAD for side speakers - Rowe Ami
Hi, Nigel:
Parts Express has a good assortment of L-pads, priced pretty reasonably. A properly designed L-pad is supposed to look like 8 ohms at all settings, so not a problem for the amp.
https://www.parts-express.com/speaker-components/crossover-components/speake...
You can call those guys and they will help you select the best fit for your application. They have audio engineers on hand to help with the wiring if you need it. Good company.
Best
Mike
On 2026-01-10 13:11, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list wrote:
Hi Dean,
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately no, it's the only place it will now fit so I'm kind of stuck with that position.
I do remember Tropicanas in bars and cafes shoved right up against a wall but commercially who would care as long as the coins went in.
The issue is the sofa is in direct line of the midrange speaker so you hear a huge imbalance of mid, which in isolation of bass and treble is pretty boring.
Lowering the output to the sides has absolutely solved the problem, I would just like to take it one step further now.
Regards
Nigel
On 10 Jan 2026 at 18:08, Dean Carriveau via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Nigel, It sounds like it should work. As an alternative, is there a way you can position the Tropicana in the corner of the room facing out? I keep mine in my office about eight feet behind me and like you say, that "stereo round" sound is fantastic. Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 05:09:43 AM PST, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room.
The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic.
So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying.
I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago.
Anyhow this is my ask here.
The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it.
Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room.
Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker.
Thanks,
Regards
Nigel
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Buy another house lol Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Nigel Pugh <pughn@npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2026 1:35:25 PM To: karl hjort via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: mboessen <mboessen@ktis.net>; karl hjort <ccoscvi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Jukebox-list] Re: LPAD for side speakers - Rowe Ami Funnily enough that's what the original manual specifies when the jukebox is closer to one wall than the other. It suggests removing one of the wires at the crossover on each side of the jukebox. So even then it must have been a consideration. Id rather use the Jukebox own speakers though, as I don't want to distract from the jukebox sound. Regards Nigel On 10 Jan 2026 at 19:36, karl hjort via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com<mailto:jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com>> wrote: Remote speakers? Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>; ________________________________ From: mboessen--- via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2026 2:21:12 PM To: jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: mboessen@ktis.net <mboessen@ktis.net> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: LPAD for side speakers - Rowe Ami Hi, Nigel: Parts Express has a good assortment of L-pads, priced pretty reasonably. A properly designed L-pad is supposed to look like 8 ohms at all settings, so not a problem for the amp. https://www.parts-express.com/speaker-components/crossover-components/speake... You can call those guys and they will help you select the best fit for your application. They have audio engineers on hand to help with the wiring if you need it. Good company. Best Mike On 2026-01-10 13:11, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list wrote:
Hi Dean,
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately no, it's the only place it will now fit so I'm kind of stuck with that position.
I do remember Tropicanas in bars and cafes shoved right up against a wall but commercially who would care as long as the coins went in.
The issue is the sofa is in direct line of the midrange speaker so you hear a huge imbalance of mid, which in isolation of bass and treble is pretty boring.
Lowering the output to the sides has absolutely solved the problem, I would just like to take it one step further now.
Regards
Nigel
On 10 Jan 2026 at 18:08, Dean Carriveau via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Nigel, It sounds like it should work. As an alternative, is there a way you can position the Tropicana in the corner of the room facing out? I keep mine in my office about eight feet behind me and like you say, that "stereo round" sound is fantastic. Dean On Saturday, January 10, 2026 at 05:09:43 AM PST, Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For more years than I can recall, my JBM Tropicana has been across the corner of the room. Due to a room redesign it now can only go in one place, along a straight wall, one side speaker about 8 inches from the wall, and the other open to the complete room.
The rub is the one open to the complete room now faces the seating area and the direct sound from that reaches your ears before the front facing bass does. So I have midrange overload in my ear until I walk in front of the machine and then it sounds fantastic.
So I had an idea to use the speaker transformer taps to reduce both sides speaker outputs. This has absolutely fixed the issue, which I can only describe as a Rowe Ami design feature probably to show off stereo in its early days but a bit annoying.
I remember having to do this on someone's Continental 2 30 odd years ago.
Anyhow this is my ask here.
The outpost difference between the 2 speaker taps is too large. It goes from lots of side speaker output to not that much. I would like to vary it.
Could I use 2 LPADs connected to each side speaker, set them on high output tags and use the pots to lower the output to the sides ? This way I could get the precise output I want and also compensate for the fact that the other side speaker is smashing the sound up the wall which is reflecting it back more than the speaker in the open room.
Hope that makes sense - it's a question about LPADs. Are they ok with tube amps. The spec is 8ohm each side speaker.
Thanks,
Regards
Nigel
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
_______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
participants (4)
-
Dean Carriveau -
karl hjort -
mboessen＠ktis.net -
Nigel Pugh