Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro Sent from my iPhone
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote: Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Yes you can test it on the bench. It will do everything you need to help you fix it. Just use a 25vac transformer. Regards, Nigel, uk
On 3 Nov 2024 at 00:18, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro
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I have a detailed wiring diagram of the wallbox, if you would like a copy. Regards. Peter. U.K. Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2024 12:31:54 AM To: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: Nigel Pugh <pughn@npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: AMI WQ200 bench test Yes you can test it on the bench. It will do everything you need to help you fix it. Just use a 25vac transformer. Regards, Nigel, uk
On 3 Nov 2024 at 00:18, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro
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Thanks for the confirmation. I just can’t figure out why it’s not advancing to the credit position when a coin is dropped in. Also doesn’t seem to return to home position, it’s usually off by one rivet. I was thinking it may need some other voltage as the fourth wire was confusing me. Thanks again, I’ll have another go at it! Mauro Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:11 AM, Peter Johnson via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I have a detailed wiring diagram of the wallbox, if you would like a copy. Regards. Peter. U.K.
Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2024 12:31:54 AM To: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: Nigel Pugh <pughn@npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: AMI WQ200 bench test
Yes you can test it on the bench. It will do everything you need to help you fix it. Just use a 25vac transformer.
Regards,
Nigel, uk
On 3 Nov 2024 at 00:18, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro
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Hi Mauro, First, I have a lot of the AMI jukebox service bulletins up loaded on my website - it never hurts to look through them can case there is something on wallboxes: for example in my collection AMI_Service_Bulletins_Book1&2_1955-59-No114_through_175-wm.pdf on page 18 there is talk about a kit to get the G200 to work with Seeburg wallboxes: flippers.com AMI/Rowe jukebox technical tips <#> 🔗 https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html <https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html> The four wires on your wallbox (reading left to right) would be AC Common, 24VAC, Signal, and AC Control (WAIT) - stops other wallboxes from sending signals while the current one is busy. I'm looking for my wall-box service manual, but I guess that is at the shop and I'm at home until Tuesday... John :-#)# On 2024-11-03 6:07 a.m., M De Simone via Jukebox-list wrote:
Thanks for the confirmation. I just can’t figure out why it’s not advancing to the credit position when a coin is dropped in. Also doesn’t seem to return to home position, it’s usually off by one rivet. I was thinking it may need some other voltage as the fourth wire was confusing me. Thanks again, I’ll have another go at it! Mauro
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On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:11 AM, Peter Johnson via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I have a detailed wiring diagram of the wallbox, if you would like a copy. Regards. Peter. U.K.
Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2024 12:31:54 AM To: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: Nigel Pugh<pughn@npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: AMI WQ200 bench test
Yes you can test it on the bench. It will do everything you need to help you fix it. Just use a 25vac transformer.
Regards,
Nigel, uk
On 3 Nov 2024 at 00:18, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro
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John, I always appreciate your insight, I’m pretty sure I’ve gone through your website extensively and have read those bulletins but it’s been a while. I’ll look again. The problem I see now is the WAIT light is on when I believe the select light should be on. It’s been many years since I’ve worked on one of these and I’m just working my way though it and refamiliarizing myself. Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 12:04 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Mauro,
First, I have a lot of the AMI jukebox service bulletins up loaded on my website - it never hurts to look through them can case there is something on wallboxes: for example in my collection AMI_Service_Bulletins_Book1&2_1955-59-No114_through_175-wm.pdf on page 18 there is talk about a kit to get the G200 to work with Seeburg wallboxes:
flippers.com
AMI/Rowe jukebox technical tips <#>
🔗 https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html <https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html>
The four wires on your wallbox (reading left to right) would be AC Common, 24VAC, Signal, and AC Control (WAIT) - stops other wallboxes from sending signals while the current one is busy.
I'm looking for my wall-box service manual, but I guess that is at the shop and I'm at home until Tuesday...
John :-#)#
On 2024-11-03 6:07 a.m., M De Simone via Jukebox-list wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. I just can’t figure out why it’s not advancing to the credit position when a coin is dropped in. Also doesn’t seem to return to home position, it’s usually off by one rivet. I was thinking it may need some other voltage as the fourth wire was confusing me. Thanks again, I’ll have another go at it! Mauro
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:11 AM, Peter Johnson via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I have a detailed wiring diagram of the wallbox, if you would like a copy. Regards. Peter. U.K.
Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2024 12:31:54 AM To: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: Nigel Pugh<pughn@npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: AMI WQ200 bench test
Yes you can test it on the bench. It will do everything you need to help you fix it. Just use a 25vac transformer.
Regards,
Nigel, uk
On 3 Nov 2024 at 00:18, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro
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Hi Jim and members, I’m still wrestling with this wall box, I believe it is now 100% functional but I cannot get it to select once the credit has been established. I’m starting to think there is a voltage missing on the control switch and remembered Jim mentioned a jumper, looking at the schematic it seems to make sense but I’m not sure where the jumper needs to be connected? I’m thinking between the AC and AC control line but the wallbox does not belong to me so I’d rather get confirmation before moving forward. Please enlighten me. Thanks again, Mauro Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 12:29 PM, M De Simone <m.desimone@rogers.com> wrote:
John, I always appreciate your insight, I’m pretty sure I’ve gone through your website extensively and have read those bulletins but it’s been a while. I’ll look again. The problem I see now is the WAIT light is on when I believe the select light should be on. It’s been many years since I’ve worked on one of these and I’m just working my way though it and refamiliarizing myself.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 12:04 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Mauro,
First, I have a lot of the AMI jukebox service bulletins up loaded on my website - it never hurts to look through them can case there is something on wallboxes: for example in my collection AMI_Service_Bulletins_Book1&2_1955-59-No114_through_175-wm.pdf on page 18 there is talk about a kit to get the G200 to work with Seeburg wallboxes:
flippers.com
AMI/Rowe jukebox technical tips <#>
🔗 https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html <https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html>
The four wires on your wallbox (reading left to right) would be AC Common, 24VAC, Signal, and AC Control (WAIT) - stops other wallboxes from sending signals while the current one is busy.
I'm looking for my wall-box service manual, but I guess that is at the shop and I'm at home until Tuesday...
John :-#)#
On 2024-11-03 6:07 a.m., M De Simone via Jukebox-list wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. I just can’t figure out why it’s not advancing to the credit position when a coin is dropped in. Also doesn’t seem to return to home position, it’s usually off by one rivet. I was thinking it may need some other voltage as the fourth wire was confusing me. Thanks again, I’ll have another go at it! Mauro
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:11 AM, Peter Johnson via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I have a detailed wiring diagram of the wallbox, if you would like a copy. Regards. Peter. U.K.
Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2024 12:31:54 AM To: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: Nigel Pugh<pughn@npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: AMI WQ200 bench test
Yes you can test it on the bench. It will do everything you need to help you fix it. Just use a 25vac transformer.
Regards,
Nigel, uk
On 3 Nov 2024 at 00:18, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro
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If the letter stepper in the jukebox is not home (as if the jukebox is in the middle of selecting), there is an open contact that does not allow further selection from any wallbox until the selection process is done and the stepper returns home. I BELIEVE that if you were to insert a coin in a wallbox while the stepper is in action, the motor moves one spot and stops AND the WAIT light should come on. Is the wait light on? Check the bulb and the socket also... Once the stepper returns home, you should be able to select. Check the leaf switches on the ends of the pushbutton banks and the motor control switch. The motor control switch can be a pain to adjust because the steel lever wears a groove on the cam so there is not as much travel anymore to open and close the switches properly. If you are testing outside the jukebox, then I believe you need a jumper between AC and AC control to simulate the stepper home switch. Good luck, Jim On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 08:02:45 PM EST, M De Simone via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote: Hi Jim and members, I’m still wrestling with this wall box, I believe it is now 100% functional but I cannot get it to select once the credit has been established. I’m starting to think there is a voltage missing on the control switch and remembered Jim mentioned a jumper, looking at the schematic it seems to make sense but I’m not sure where the jumper needs to be connected? I’m thinking between the AC and AC control line but the wallbox does not belong to me so I’d rather get confirmation before moving forward. Please enlighten me. Thanks again, Mauro Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 12:29 PM, M De Simone <m.desimone@rogers.com> wrote:
John, I always appreciate your insight, I’m pretty sure I’ve gone through your website extensively and have read those bulletins but it’s been a while. I’ll look again. The problem I see now is the WAIT light is on when I believe the select light should be on. It’s been many years since I’ve worked on one of these and I’m just working my way though it and refamiliarizing myself.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 12:04 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Mauro,
First, I have a lot of the AMI jukebox service bulletins up loaded on my website - it never hurts to look through them can case there is something on wallboxes: for example in my collection AMI_Service_Bulletins_Book1&2_1955-59-No114_through_175-wm.pdf on page 18 there is talk about a kit to get the G200 to work with Seeburg wallboxes:
flippers.com
AMI/Rowe jukebox technical tips <#>
🔗 https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html <https://flippers.com/ami-rowe.html>
The four wires on your wallbox (reading left to right) would be AC Common, 24VAC, Signal, and AC Control (WAIT) - stops other wallboxes from sending signals while the current one is busy.
I'm looking for my wall-box service manual, but I guess that is at the shop and I'm at home until Tuesday...
John :-#)#
On 2024-11-03 6:07 a.m., M De Simone via Jukebox-list wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. I just can’t figure out why it’s not advancing to the credit position when a coin is dropped in. Also doesn’t seem to return to home position, it’s usually off by one rivet. I was thinking it may need some other voltage as the fourth wire was confusing me. Thanks again, I’ll have another go at it! Mauro
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:11 AM, Peter Johnson via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I have a detailed wiring diagram of the wallbox, if you would like a copy. Regards. Peter. U.K.
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Yes you can test it on the bench. It will do everything you need to help you fix it. Just use a 25vac transformer.
Regards,
Nigel, uk
On 3 Nov 2024 at 00:18, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro
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It’s working again! BIG thank you to all the members who took the time to offer guidance. I was sure I had it all set up correctly and it was indeed the jumper that was needed for bench testing. It’s cycling well now. Much appreciated, Mauro Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 15, 2024, at 12:14 PM, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
If the letter stepper in the jukebox is not home (as if the jukebox is in the middle of selecting), there is an open contact that does not allow further selection from any wallbox until the selection process is done and the stepper returns home. I BELIEVE that if you were to insert a coin in a wallbox while the stepper is in action, the motor moves one spot and stops AND the WAIT light should come on. Is the wait light on? Check the bulb and the socket also... Once the stepper returns home, you should be able to select. Check the leaf switches on the ends of the pushbutton banks and the motor control switch. The motor control switch can be a pain to adjust because the steel lever wears a groove on the cam so there is not as much travel anymore to open and close the switches properly. If you are testing outside the jukebox, then I believe you need a jumper between AC and AC control to simulate the stepper home switch. Good luck, Jim On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 08:02:45 PM EST, M De Simone via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Jim and members, I’m still wrestling with this wall box, I believe it is now 100% functional but I cannot get it to select once the credit has been established. I’m starting to think there is a voltage missing on the control switch and remembered Jim mentioned a jumper, looking at the schematic it seems to make sense but I’m not sure where the jumper needs to be connected? I’m thinking between the AC and AC control line but the wallbox does not belong to me so I’d rather get confirmation before moving forward. Please enlighten me. Thanks again, Mauro
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On Nov 3, 2024, at 12:29 PM, M De Simone <m.desimone@rogers.com> wrote:
John, I always appreciate your insight, I’m pretty sure I’ve gone through your website extensively and have read those bulletins but it’s been a while. I’ll look again. The problem I see now is the WAIT light is on when I believe the select light should be on. It’s been many years since I’ve worked on one of these and I’m just working my way though it and refamiliarizing myself.
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On Nov 3, 2024, at 12:04 PM, John Robertson via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Mauro,
First, I have a lot of the AMI jukebox service bulletins up loaded on my website - it never hurts to look through them can case there is something on wallboxes: for example in my collection AMI_Service_Bulletins_Book1&2_1955-59-No114_through_175-wm.pdf on page 18 there is talk about a kit to get the G200 to work with Seeburg wallboxes:
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The four wires on your wallbox (reading left to right) would be AC Common, 24VAC, Signal, and AC Control (WAIT) - stops other wallboxes from sending signals while the current one is busy.
I'm looking for my wall-box service manual, but I guess that is at the shop and I'm at home until Tuesday...
John :-#)#
On 2024-11-03 6:07 a.m., M De Simone via Jukebox-list wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. I just can’t figure out why it’s not advancing to the credit position when a coin is dropped in. Also doesn’t seem to return to home position, it’s usually off by one rivet. I was thinking it may need some other voltage as the fourth wire was confusing me. Thanks again, I’ll have another go at it! Mauro
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On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:11 AM, Peter Johnson via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I have a detailed wiring diagram of the wallbox, if you would like a copy. Regards. Peter. U.K.
Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Nigel Pugh via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2024 12:31:54 AM To: JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> Cc: Nigel Pugh<pughn@npsyssoft.force9.co.uk> Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: AMI WQ200 bench test
Yes you can test it on the bench. It will do everything you need to help you fix it. Just use a 25vac transformer.
Regards,
Nigel, uk
On 3 Nov 2024 at 00:18, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I believe its a four wire setup with a lock out feature so you can't select if another wallbox is in use or the jukebox keyboard is in use. Most likely you will need to install a jumper. On Saturday, November 2, 2024 at 04:45:31 PM EDT, M De Simone via Jukebox-list<jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hello All, Can anyone tell me if I can test an AMI WQ200 wallbox on the bench with just powering the 26vac? I have one that will select if I help turn the motor a bit but coins do not advance the wiper blades. I’ve made some adjustments and did some contact cleaning but it does the same thing. I’m wondering if I need a DC voltage or something else? Thank you for any advice, Mauro
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Peter Johnson