Seeburg R tonearm / trip issue
I’m working on a R that just came in. As the tonearm enters into the cutoff portion of the record, instead of tripping off the tonearm jumps back into the record and then repeats this process and eventually will trip. There is a good loop in the tonearm wire so no bind there. Previous owner had installed an adapter to use stereo cartridge but I don’t think there’s any issue there. Could the tonearm balance weight cause this?
Sounds like something is binding causing the tone arm to jump back. Check the lower weighted portion of the tone arm manually moving it you may feel it binding. Don On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 8:14 PM Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I’m working on a R that just came in. As the tonearm enters into the cutoff portion of the record, instead of tripping off the tonearm jumps back into the record and then repeats this process and eventually will trip. There is a good loop in the tonearm wire so no bind there. Previous owner had installed an adapter to use stereo cartridge but I don’t think there’s any issue there. Could the tonearm balance weight cause this? _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
One thing to check would be the counterweight on the bottom of the tone arm. If you set it to play on an empty slot the tone arm should have a neutral balance, of not slightly toward the inside of the record. On Fri, Sep 8, 2023, 8:41 PM Donald Whiting via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Sounds like something is binding causing the tone arm to jump back. Check the lower weighted portion of the tone arm manually moving it you may feel it binding.
Don
On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 8:14 PM Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I’m working on a R that just came in. As the tonearm enters into the cutoff portion of the record, instead of tripping off the tonearm jumps back into the record and then repeats this process and eventually will trip. There is a good loop in the tonearm wire so no bind there. Previous owner had installed an adapter to use stereo cartridge but I don’t think there’s any issue there. Could the tonearm balance weight cause this? _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
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The cart you customer is using is lighter than the red mono. This causes the counterweight to pull the arm toward the vertical point, which, in this case is the center of a record’s playing surface. Two good solutions and one half-assed one: Reinstall an original cart. Or cut down the fixed counterweight. The adjustable counterweight may need cutting as well. You can just add enough weight to the top of the new cart to make is as heavy as the original (that’s the half assed one). Also; make sure the trip switch bias spring is a far down as possible without causing error tripping. This takes much of the load off the arm. RobNYC On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 07:14:44 PM GMT-5, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote: I’m working on a R that just came in. As the tonearm enters into the cutoff portion of the record, instead of tripping off the tonearm jumps back into the record and then repeats this process and eventually will trip. There is a good loop in the tonearm wire so no bind there. Previous owner had installed an adapter to use stereo cartridge but I don’t think there’s any issue there. Could the tonearm balance weight cause this? _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
I have no connections to the jukebox industry. Please remove me from your list. Than you ...... Alan -----Original Message----- From: Chan Gade via Jukebox-list [mailto:jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com] Sent: September-11-23 2:02 AM To: Jukebox mailing list Cc: Jukebox Repairman; Chan Gade Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: Seeburg R tonearm / trip issue The cart you customer is using is lighter than the red mono. This causes the counterweight to pull the arm toward the vertical point, which, in this case is the center of a record’s playing surface. Two good solutions and one half-assed one: Reinstall an original cart. Or cut down the fixed counterweight. The adjustable counterweight may need cutting as well. You can just add enough weight to the top of the new cart to make is as heavy as the original (that’s the half assed one). Also; make sure the trip switch bias spring is a far down as possible without causing error tripping. This takes much of the load off the arm. RobNYC On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 07:14:44 PM GMT-5, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote: I’m working on a R that just came in. As the tonearm enters into the cutoff portion of the record, instead of tripping off the tonearm jumps back into the record and then repeats this process and eventually will trip. There is a good loop in the tonearm wire so no bind there. Previous owner had installed an adapter to use stereo cartridge but I don’t think there’s any issue there. Could the tonearm balance weight cause this? _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
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On Sep 11, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Alan Armstrong via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I have no connections to the jukebox industry.
Please remove me from your list.
Than you ...... Alan
-----Original Message----- From: Chan Gade via Jukebox-list [mailto:jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com] Sent: September-11-23 2:02 AM To: Jukebox mailing list Cc: Jukebox Repairman; Chan Gade Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: Seeburg R tonearm / trip issue
The cart you customer is using is lighter than the red mono. This causes the counterweight to pull the arm toward the vertical point, which, in this case is the center of a record’s playing surface.
Two good solutions and one half-assed one:
Reinstall an original cart.
Or cut down the fixed counterweight. The adjustable counterweight may need cutting as well.
You can just add enough weight to the top of the new cart to make is as heavy as the original (that’s the half assed one).
Also; make sure the trip switch bias spring is a far down as possible without causing error tripping. This takes much of the load off the arm.
RobNYC On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 07:14:44 PM GMT-5, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
I’m working on a R that just came in. As the tonearm enters into the cutoff portion of the record, instead of tripping off the tonearm jumps back into the record and then repeats this process and eventually will trip. There is a good loop in the tonearm wire so no bind there. Previous owner had installed an adapter to use stereo cartridge but I don’t think there’s any issue there. Could the tonearm balance weight cause this? _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
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