Hi Forum, Well I’m working on my “new” Seeburg 200C and it looks like I need a new speaker as the original appears to be blown - getting lots of base distortion that I don’t hear at all when connected to a remote speaker. I’m not a speaker guy, so hoping to get some help. I’m fine buying a new speaker rather than gamble on a vintage one, but I want to be sure I’m not going to damage anything in my system and get something that will sound good. The 200C uses the HFA1-L6 amplifier rated at 20 watts. The load impedance is “8 or 16 ohms” and the output voltage is “16 volts at 16 ohm output socket”. The maximum output power is 27.5 watts at 400 CPS with 2.4 volts input. The manual stresses that the total power supplied to all the speakers must be between 5 watts and 20 watts. Again, not a speaker guy - I thought it was ok to use a higher wattage speaker than your amp wattage, but many on-line sources say that the speaker wattage really should not be more than the amp output - especially for tube amps. The speaker specs say: - Dual, coaxial, permanent magnet type - Low frequency unit - 12” direct radiator - High frequency unit - Pressure driver with multi-cellular horn - Impedance (complete system) - 16 ohms I see a lot of guitar speakers on line that are 16ohm and are 20-25 watts, but they don’t have a lot of range - not sure I need that much, but 5KHz (which seems typical) seems too low. I’d really appreciate some advice! Thanks!
On Tuesday, February 24, 2026 at 06:26:40 AM PST, Steve Swaine via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Forum, Well I’m working on my “new” Seeburg 200C and it looks like I need
a new speaker as the original appears to be blown - getting lots of base
distortion that I don’t hear at all when connected to a remote speaker.
I’m not a speaker guy, so hoping to get some help. I’m fine buying a new
speaker rather than gamble on a vintage one, but I want to be sure I’m not
going to damage anything in my system and get something that will sound good.
I'd strongly recommend getting your existing speaker rebuilt. You reallyare buying the proverbial pig in a poke when you stick a random speakerinto the signal chain. Have you tried connecting the speaker to anotheramplifier (ie, home stereo) to confirm it's the problem?
The pilasters will rattle/buzz on this model so be sure that isn't it. This can be a pain to stop. Also check for loose grill cloth. On Tuesday, February 24, 2026 at 09:26:26 AM EST, Steve Swaine via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote: Hi Forum, Well I’m working on my “new” Seeburg 200C and it looks like I need a new speaker as the original appears to be blown - getting lots of base distortion that I don’t hear at all when connected to a remote speaker. I’m not a speaker guy, so hoping to get some help. I’m fine buying a new speaker rather than gamble on a vintage one, but I want to be sure I’m not going to damage anything in my system and get something that will sound good. The 200C uses the HFA1-L6 amplifier rated at 20 watts. The load impedance is “8 or 16 ohms” and the output voltage is “16 volts at 16 ohm output socket”. The maximum output power is 27.5 watts at 400 CPS with 2.4 volts input. The manual stresses that the total power supplied to all the speakers must be between 5 watts and 20 watts. Again, not a speaker guy - I thought it was ok to use a higher wattage speaker than your amp wattage, but many on-line sources say that the speaker wattage really should not be more than the amp output - especially for tube amps. The speaker specs say: - Dual, coaxial, permanent magnet type - Low frequency unit - 12” direct radiator - High frequency unit - Pressure driver with multi-cellular horn - Impedance (complete system) - 16 ohms I see a lot of guitar speakers on line that are 16ohm and are 20-25 watts, but they don’t have a lot of range - not sure I need that much, but 5KHz (which seems typical) seems too low. I’d really appreciate some advice! Thanks! _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Just to close this out…. So I used the suggestion to try the speaker on a different system and verified that it is indeed the speaker that is the problem. After spending a lot of time looking on line for the same model and only finding a few (that all needed more work than the one I have), I started looking into reconing. I called a dozen repair places around the St. Louis area with no luck finding anyone who does reconing. So I called a few places around the country and most didn’t answer their phones. The one that did said “maybe” they could do it, but I’d have to send it to them before they could decide. I then got a lead from a friend about one more local place that “used to do speaker”. They said they don’t do speaker work anymore, but they know a guy that they use that has been doing speaker repair for over 30 years. Turned out he lives less than 10 minutes from me! I called him and ran the speaker right over - should have it back in a week or so. Lloyd has rooms full of speakers and said he has done 100s of jukebox speaker rebuilds. Let me know if anyone wants his contact info - but he plans to retire very soon. I said he had my permission, but only *after* he finished my speaker. Thanks, -steve.
On Feb 24, 2026, at 7:42 PM, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
The pilasters will rattle/buzz on this model so be sure that isn't it. This can be a pain to stop. Also check for loose grill cloth. On Tuesday, February 24, 2026 at 09:26:26 AM EST, Steve Swaine via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Forum, Well I’m working on my “new” Seeburg 200C and it looks like I need a new speaker as the original appears to be blown - getting lots of base distortion that I don’t hear at all when connected to a remote speaker. I’m not a speaker guy, so hoping to get some help. I’m fine buying a new speaker rather than gamble on a vintage one, but I want to be sure I’m not going to damage anything in my system and get something that will sound good.
The 200C uses the HFA1-L6 amplifier rated at 20 watts. The load impedance is “8 or 16 ohms” and the output voltage is “16 volts at 16 ohm output socket”. The maximum output power is 27.5 watts at 400 CPS with 2.4 volts input.
The manual stresses that the total power supplied to all the speakers must be between 5 watts and 20 watts. Again, not a speaker guy - I thought it was ok to use a higher wattage speaker than your amp wattage, but many on-line sources say that the speaker wattage really should not be more than the amp output - especially for tube amps.
The speaker specs say: - Dual, coaxial, permanent magnet type - Low frequency unit - 12” direct radiator - High frequency unit - Pressure driver with multi-cellular horn - Impedance (complete system) - 16 ohms
I see a lot of guitar speakers on line that are 16ohm and are 20-25 watts, but they don’t have a lot of range - not sure I need that much, but 5KHz (which seems typical) seems too low.
I’d really appreciate some advice!
Thanks! _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
Sound Remedy in New Jersey if you want it re- coned and done right. On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 10:07 PM Steve Swaine via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Just to close this out….
So I used the suggestion to try the speaker on a different system and verified that it is indeed the speaker that is the problem. After spending a lot of time looking on line for the same model and only finding a few (that all needed more work than the one I have), I started looking into reconing.
I called a dozen repair places around the St. Louis area with no luck finding anyone who does reconing. So I called a few places around the country and most didn’t answer their phones. The one that did said “maybe” they could do it, but I’d have to send it to them before they could decide.
I then got a lead from a friend about one more local place that “used to do speaker”. They said they don’t do speaker work anymore, but they know a guy that they use that has been doing speaker repair for over 30 years. Turned out he lives less than 10 minutes from me! I called him and ran the speaker right over - should have it back in a week or so. Lloyd has rooms full of speakers and said he has done 100s of jukebox speaker rebuilds.
Let me know if anyone wants his contact info - but he plans to retire very soon. I said he had my permission, but only *after* he finished my speaker.
Thanks, -steve.
On Feb 24, 2026, at 7:42 PM, JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
The pilasters will rattle/buzz on this model so be sure that isn't it. This can be a pain to stop. Also check for loose grill cloth. On Tuesday, February 24, 2026 at 09:26:26 AM EST, Steve Swaine via Jukebox-list <jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Forum, Well I’m working on my “new” Seeburg 200C and it looks like I need a new speaker as the original appears to be blown - getting lots of base distortion that I don’t hear at all when connected to a remote speaker. I’m not a speaker guy, so hoping to get some help. I’m fine buying a new speaker rather than gamble on a vintage one, but I want to be sure I’m not going to damage anything in my system and get something that will sound good.
The 200C uses the HFA1-L6 amplifier rated at 20 watts. The load impedance is “8 or 16 ohms” and the output voltage is “16 volts at 16 ohm output socket”. The maximum output power is 27.5 watts at 400 CPS with 2.4 volts input.
The manual stresses that the total power supplied to all the speakers must be between 5 watts and 20 watts. Again, not a speaker guy - I thought it was ok to use a higher wattage speaker than your amp wattage, but many on-line sources say that the speaker wattage really should not be more than the amp output - especially for tube amps.
The speaker specs say: - Dual, coaxial, permanent magnet type - Low frequency unit - 12” direct radiator - High frequency unit - Pressure driver with multi-cellular horn - Impedance (complete system) - 16 ohms
I see a lot of guitar speakers on line that are 16ohm and are 20-25 watts, but they don’t have a lot of range - not sure I need that much, but 5KHz (which seems typical) seems too low.
I’d really appreciate some advice!
Thanks! _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/ _______________________________________________ Jukebox-list mailing list -- jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To unsubscribe send an email to jukebox-list-leave@lists.netlojix.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Searchable Archives: http://jukebox.markmail.org/
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David Breneman -
JIM & LAURIE DIRKSEN -
Jukebox Repairman -
Steve Swaine