Years ago Ron Rich helped me with a 220 that was making a popping noise in the audio during scan. I'm having the same issue with a 222 and checked my notes but couldnt find what the resolve was. Anybody know what causes this? Its not the mute contacts. for some reason im thinking he said it was a cap but again i dont recall. Regards, Rick
On 2026-02-19 5:40 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Years ago Ron Rich helped me with a 220 that was making a popping noise in the audio during scan.
I'm having the same issue with a 222 and checked my notes but couldnt find what the resolve was.
Anybody know what causes this? Its not the mute contacts. for some reason im thinking he said it was a cap but again i dont recall.
Regards, Rick
Always best to put a word or two in the subject line of what the problem is - for tracking down in the future! As far as Ron Rich's advice I found something in the other mail list (Seeburg) where he said: "The cause of the pop when reversing is miss-adjustment of the reversing switch, or a poor ground ("earth") connection between the mechanism and the electronics in the rear of the phono. The cause of the pop on shutting off is also poor ground connections-- Also part of this problem can be traced to a "Code A" 25 PCU-1. This must be up-dated to a "Code B". Ron Rich" I could not find anything specific to popping during scan for the 220 or any other models going back to 2006. If you can recall what the conversation was about I may be able to search it better in my archives John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
On 2/19/2026 8:40 PM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Years ago Ron Rich helped me with a 220 that was making a popping noise in the audio during scan.
I'm having the same issue with a 222 and checked my notes but couldnt find what the resolve was.
Anybody know what causes this? Its not the mute contacts. for some reason im thinking he said it was a cap but again i dont recall.
Regards, Rick ______________________
The detent switch out of adjustment, or I think if the tormat isn't adjusted properly and it arcs as it scans. -- Tony Miklos Tony's Jukebox Repair
it selects and plays fine so i think im good there. I did clean the usual grime off the detent. (I always check that) On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 8:03 AM Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2/19/2026 8:40 PM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Years ago Ron Rich helped me with a 220 that was making a popping noise in the audio during scan.
I'm having the same issue with a 222 and checked my notes but couldnt find what the resolve was.
Anybody know what causes this? Its not the mute contacts. for some reason im thinking he said it was a cap but again i dont recall.
Regards, Rick ______________________
The detent switch out of adjustment, or I think if the tormat isn't adjusted properly and it arcs as it scans. -- Tony Miklos Tony's Jukebox Repair
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On 2/20/2026 10:49 AM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
it selects and plays fine so i think im good there. I did clean the usual grime off the detent. (I always check that) I know from experience that they can select perfectly fine with the detent switch out of adjustment. Eventually it can cause the points to pit. I don't recall about the cause of arcing on the tormat... that could very well be caused by the detent switch out of adjustment also.
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I’m gonna recheck both tonight. Appreciate your input Regards Rick On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 2:53 PM Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2/20/2026 10:49 AM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
it selects and plays fine so i think im good there. I did clean the usual grime off the detent. (I always check that) I know from experience that they can select perfectly fine with the detent switch out of adjustment. Eventually it can cause the points to pit. I don't recall about the cause of arcing on the tormat... that could very well be caused by the detent switch out of adjustment also.
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Update. It was the large ceramic cap on the play control assembly. One of the legs had separated, broke off. I remember now this is exactly where Ron had advised me to look Regards, Rick On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 3:48 PM Jukebox Repairman <jukin510@gmail.com> wrote:
I’m gonna recheck both tonight. Appreciate your input
Regards Rick
On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 2:53 PM Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2/20/2026 10:49 AM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
it selects and plays fine so i think im good there. I did clean the usual grime off the detent. (I always check that) I know from experience that they can select perfectly fine with the detent switch out of adjustment. Eventually it can cause the points to pit. I don't recall about the cause of arcing on the tormat... that could very well be caused by the detent switch out of adjustment also.
-- Tony Miklos Tony's Jukebox Repair
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Hi Rick, Which capacitor number (Cxxx) was this on the schematic? I am having trouble seeing where any capacitors on the Play Control Coils or switch will effect the audio during scanning... Thanks! John :-#)# On 2026-02-20 3:46 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Update. It was the large ceramic cap on the play control assembly. One of the legs had separated, broke off.
I remember now this is exactly where Ron had advised me to look
Regards, Rick
On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 3:48 PM Jukebox Repairman <jukin510@gmail.com> wrote:
I’m gonna recheck both tonight. Appreciate your input
Regards Rick
On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 2:53 PM Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2/20/2026 10:49 AM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
it selects and plays fine so i think im good there. I did clean the usual grime off the detent. (I always check that) I know from experience that they can select perfectly fine with the detent switch out of adjustment. Eventually it can cause the points to pit. I don't recall about the cause of arcing on the tormat... that could very well be caused by the detent switch out of adjustment also.
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Sending you a pic direct email On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 7:55 PM John Robertson via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
Hi Rick,
Which capacitor number (Cxxx) was this on the schematic? I am having trouble seeing where any capacitors on the Play Control Coils or switch will effect the audio during scanning...
Thanks!
John :-#)#
On 2026-02-20 3:46 p.m., Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
Update. It was the large ceramic cap on the play control assembly. One of the legs had separated, broke off.
I remember now this is exactly where Ron had advised me to look
Regards, Rick
On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 3:48 PM Jukebox Repairman <jukin510@gmail.com> wrote:
I’m gonna recheck both tonight. Appreciate your input
Regards Rick
On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 2:53 PM Tony Miklos via Jukebox-list < jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com> wrote:
On 2/20/2026 10:49 AM, Jukebox Repairman via Jukebox-list wrote:
it selects and plays fine so i think im good there. I did clean the usual grime off the detent. (I always check that) I know from experience that they can select perfectly fine with the detent switch out of adjustment. Eventually it can cause the points to pit. I don't recall about the cause of arcing on the tormat... that could very well be caused by the detent switch out of adjustment also.
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On 2/20/26 16:55, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
Hi Rick,
Which capacitor number (Cxxx) was this on the schematic? I am having trouble seeing where any capacitors on the Play Control Coils or switch will effect the audio during scanning...
The Play Control subtract switch will operate whenever the mech scans to the right. Arcing here could cause a pop. -- Jay Hennigan - jay@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
On 2026-02-21 7:31 p.m., Jay Hennigan via Jukebox-list wrote:
On 2/20/26 16:55, John Robertson via Jukebox-list wrote:
Hi Rick,
Which capacitor number (Cxxx) was this on the schematic? I am having trouble seeing where any capacitors on the Play Control Coils or switch will effect the audio during scanning...
The Play Control subtract switch will operate whenever the mech scans to the right. Arcing here could cause a pop.
Rick showed that it was the actual Play Control Switch that had the open capacitor. What appears to be happening is when that switch gets noisy then you get noise, clicks, pops, etc to the audio amp power supply that then comes out the speakers. Worth testing by disconnecting the 0.01 uF cap and listen for audio noise. John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
I thought Tony made a couple of very good suggestions - for all the trouble it would be to stick a piece of card in the detent switch and then scan, would easily prove whether or not he was correct! Norman. ------ Original Message ------ From: jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com To: jukebox-list@lists.netlojix.com Cc: jukin510@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 20th 2026, 15:50 Subject: [Jukebox-list] Re: Seeburg 222 it selects and plays fine so i think im good there. I did clean the usual grime off the detent. (I always check that)
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